I, too, am tapping out. I don't even wanna write this but I don't want people flipping out either.
You'll be surprised, but it was "ever heard of intersectionalism? Well fucking look it up 8bit, gawd" that really did it in for me.
I just can't come back to a response like that. I can't wake up to this shit anymore. School is starting again, I have things I wanna work on and shit. Not stare at a comment all angry and shit for 15 minutes. Like I could be eating breakfast right now but I gotta handle this business first. I am done being hubski's resident fuckin' Black friend. I am not on that YungSnuggie shit anymore, and that dude is a grown-ass man.
You need me, ask klein, he's got my contact info, 1, and 2, he probably knows who I want and don't want to fuckin talk to, lolol.
But you did it guys. Ya BEAT ME with LOGIC. I could feel the STEM power coursing through your veins as you struck my "emotional" ass down with your "opinions". And besides, what about the black on black crime? What about ALL the lives, don't they matter? I mean, there's no implicit "too" in any of your statements, right? YOU'RE the one being the real racist! Black people don't have to be in movies, or videogames, or comics, because...I dunno, I said so! Plus, if you're an officer, CLEARLY you have a reason to shoot people 100% of the time, and the jury is always right, right? That's the point. And on that note, I'm not really a fan of rap, it's just drugs, money and bitches. And another thing! Don't you think your reaction was offensive to others as well? Plus, even though both my parents are doctors and I want to boarding school straight into an Ivy league, I know oppression: I mean, I'm jewish! And by the way, don't black people get all the scholarships anyways, and how much money have you gotten from affirmative action? I feel like that's one of the REAL problems in this country -- you know, besides the black on black crime. Stop making everything about race! You know, even though we did first! And getting mad and leaving like this just proves I'm right! You're supposed to stand there and take it and the minute you take a step back, the minute you sigh or say "I'm not dealing with this anymore", then it means I win, and you really ARE just overreacting. And by the way......
A year ago I wouldn't have felt the need to maintain some degree of anonymity on here. I am now afraid at how much information about myself is on Hubski. It's sad..
I've been so busy these last few weeks that I never figured out that it was wage that left. I knew someone important had tapped out but never had the time to put it all together... Now 8bit... Things have changed here. We are losing bit of heart and soul. We are losing some of the perspectives that were the most interesting to me. I often didn't agree with minimumwage but at the same time her comments and links did more to change my perspective on things than almost any other user. I can't say that I didn't see 8bit coming. He couldn't shrug off the shitty people. I would say that I hoped that if he did a cost benefit he would realize that the good outweighed the bad but whatever, maybe he did... It will be interesting to see what becomes of Hubski. There is a lot to value here, certain bits that were valuable are getting ground to the nubs.
I think the fact that you're even thinking about not posting certain things is a problem and gives me a bad idea. What if posts could be made private but distinct from private messages? Public posts go to the global feed and all that, but private posts would only be available to people with a mutual follow relationship and other users you could specify? With regards to your shop, it's clear that those of us that care enough to interact with you in any capacity are very excited over this whole thing! Hubski's definitely changed as it's grown and there was a lot of "golden era" talk earlier, which I agree with _refugee_ on. Too bad those comments are now down the deleted drain.
Just to add. I almost didn't post anything about the coffee shop on Hubski because I've had enough scrape ups here recently that I thought someone might go after me online or in real life. I thought about asking kleinbl00 advice for the first time in my Hubski life because I know he has wisdom about vicious internet thugs bleeding into real life. In the end I said fuck it, post it, what's the worst they can do? I've never had so much to lose in my life and I question weather it's worth it to add any unnecessary risk. What seemed like the best Reddit wave yet has oddly caused a lot of misery.
I don't think we scale very well. I think that for a wave to go well there need to be enough active, positive, friendly Hubski members that make an individual impact on the new users that stick around, to kind of help impart the idea of the website and also serve as gentle guides as to maybe what's more appropriate or less or so on. I think it has to do with getting new users to make personal connections as much with anything else. Right now I feel like we are just running around stamping out little fires and trying to keep up with them. If there is a large influx, large and active enough to override the tone that has previously been established here, those who already were present can't do much about it - the concentration is diluted. Ironically the website takes on the flavor of whatever place the new users were fleeing, as it's their frame of reference and their habit. When 20 new people move in to a row of houses on the block, it's not that you've got new neighbors. You've got a brand new community. And sure you want to get to know them all but it is a lot more difficult to learn 20 new names and personalities than 5. It is easy to become overwhelmed. Meanwhile the established users continue to slowly leave or wander off.
Meh. This place is for everyone who wants to be a part of it. Every time there's a big influx, most of the people leave, a few turn out to be jerks, and a few turn out to be really good members (_refugee_ came from a big reddit influx, for example). There's nothing particularly different about this influx. The user everyone hates the most didn't come from it, FWIW, and this isn't the first time a well liked user has quit.
I don't know if this is universal, but there have definitely been times in my life where I've had a lot at stake and then suddenly I feel the urge to start doing risky shit (a form of l'appel du vide?)-- maybe in the hopes that it'll all come tumbling down so that I won't have to deal with it anymore. Anyway, that's one of the things I'm working at changing with this new direction I'm trying to go with in my life.In the end I said fuck it, post it, what's the worst they can do? I've never had so much to lose in my life and I question weather it's worth it to add any unnecessary risk.
Hey, in case you didn't catch it in the other thread and you're still lurking here, I hope you read this. It was part of my response in the thread that instigated this. I mean every last bit of it. If you come back, under this name or something else, let me know. I'll gladly follow you again in a heartbeat. I know things can be difficult sometimes, but you're a great guy and no matter what, I hope you all the best.eightbitsamurai, you're a truly awesome dude and you bring a lot to this site. Be here to have fun, be here to teach and to learn, to interact with others and share what you have to offer and feel free to leave it at that. You don't have to let this site become your personal chore, a part of your daily grind. Sometimes it's okay to just step away for a bit. It sucks that minimum_wage left and I barely knew her. I do know you though and enjoy what you have to share and I can honestly say that even though I've known you for like a month, personally it would suck 10 times more to see you leave too.
Has the post really been deleted or am I mega-blocked? It's just, I assumed the latter but now your hubCard says it was deleted and I don't know if that's a clever feature to hide my block, or actually true. If deleted then I have slightly more respect for the user
I'm pretty sure it was deleted. It says so for me and I have nothing to do with this.
Oooh, what did you do _refugee_? What did you do?!
Sometimes rage-quitting is the only answer. Every few months, one too many rape apologists or horrifying subreddits gets me down, and I rage-quit Reddit. Here, I'd already blocked the "Fuck Black Lives Matter" guy, but I still saw that comment. Self-moderation is great, but some sort of "I want to forget that this person even exists" mode may be in order.
You are not overreacting. But without people beating back the likes ignorance such as mine ... nothing will change. It sucks. But that is the battle line on class and race here and now. This election is screwed. And social media is making it worse. And you are not overreacting. I just wish there was a funnel for your rage and disappointment that would somehow enact change rather than have another person flameout. EDIT: social media is making this worse. I'm out too
Dear Christ, no. Losing one good user is in no way similar to the reddit dumpster fire. Reddit is largely a bunch of children shouting and trying to get validation from strangers. Hubski is so small in comparison that you couldn't tell the founders from an average user if you weren't informed. Hubski is reddit like a corner coffee shop is that bad Starbucks people walk two blocks to the other Starbucks to avoid.
Nah. I think there's a lot of things this site has going for it. Leadership being number one. mk, thenewgreen, and company are not only willing to be hands on with this site day in and day out, they're part of the community. They share with us, voice their thoughts and opinions, and ask for our feedback on this site on the regular. They care about this site and the people in it. That alone is more than Reddit ever had to offer. Two, this is a much smaller site and the relationships here are stronger. You talk to the same people day in and day out, get to know them, value their thoughts and opinions. If someone on Reddit up and leaves, I'd think about why they left, but I wouldn't think about how it affects me. 8bit leaving though? Sucks. I feel it. My day's ruined. That says something. Three, this site has a more balanced user base. There are plenty of women here, and they're active and valued. There are quite a few non-Americans here, and they're active and valued. I've only told two people about this site, because I think they'd fit in nicely. When I'm actually concerned about who I share this site with and how they'll fit in, that says something about how important the core user base is here. Four, this place isn't anywhere near materialistic or shallow as Reddit is. People care about what they post, they care about how it's received, and they care about bringing value to this site. Go to Reddit, click the "All" tab and browse the newest posts, then come back here and the difference is night and day. This moment sucks. A lot. But it happens from time to time on smaller social sites like this. It's important to stop and take a moment to think about what happened and what can be done down the road to avoid it. 8bit left, and that's a pretty shitty loss, and I pray to God he comes back if even under a different user name, but this site still has a ton going for it and it would take a series of horrible events to make me even begin to consider otherwise.
Thanks for the shout-out and the sentiment. I hadn't seen this post or I would have listed the below link here. But I'll post the link below:
Eh, I've seen shitty people push good people out too often, especially on the internet. And it's easy for them to get a foothold on a site with a 'encounter new people and ideas' sort of ethos. They can complain other people aren't being open minded to racism and some naive souls sometimes fall for it.