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kleinbl00  ·  2 hours ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Pubski: July 8, 2020

The discussion on transgender rights has come on hard and fast and with a ferocious urgency. Those same GenXers and Boomers who discovered the Internet after Zuckerberg wrapped it in a bow grew up laughing at Monty Python's "no poofters". Charlie Daniels died two days ago and every obituary brought up "Devil Went Down to Georgia" and none of them brought up "Uneasy Rider '88." I mean, here's me throwing Paul McHugh into the mix because I read him in the Wall Street Journal. Here's Psychology Today doing the same four years later. I think at the time I was indignant that I could now be lambasted for not knowing the term "two-spirit" (or that it's what the asterisk stood for in "LGBTQIAK*" for a hot minute) when before I was considered enlightened for knowing a little about the subtle intricacies of life as a berdache. At the time? You were doing ethnic studies. Ten years later? You might as well say "niXXer studies." And the problem is, the language needs to change and the attitudes need to change but the people trying the hardest to champion usually end up being the ones being corrected the most because they're willing to put in the work.

coffeesp00ns, wherever she is, did a yeoman's job of not rubbing my nose in "you just quoted a guy attempting to erase my identity in the WSJ" and I've been forever thankful for it. There are millions of people who sat in theaters and laughed as Crocodile Dundee embarrassed a drag queen on the big screen and there are millions of people who will argue to the death that everyone who did so should have known then what horrible prejudicial people they were.

And those people will never convince each other of anything.

kleinbl00  ·  3 hours ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Ryuichi Sakamoto: Playing the Piano for the Isolated

There was an anime concert posted in Chat that was pretty cool, but not this cool. Thanks.

kleinbl00  ·  4 hours ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Pubski: July 8, 2020

Milan Kundera observes in Life is Elsewhere that adolescence is the time we try on different masks as we walk across the stage. It's a great quote; I have it written down but not here. Sherry Turkle wrote a whole book on the phenomenon back in '95; she's a developmental psychologist who got deep into "computers" and how we interact with them back in 1984. Her point was that adolescents and young adults put on personas, as documented by Erik Erickson and others, but that doing so on the Internet allows people to have a much lower entry and exit cost than ever before which makes the relationships that much more tenuous.

Jaron Lanier talks about the difference between anonymity and pseudonymity in You are Not a Gadget but he doesn't really get into the disconnects we all feel between pseudonymity and identity. I think these two issues are the biggest source of friction communities like Hubski face: young adults attaching and detaching from pseudonyms while also attempting to determine their identity, and old fucks who are as committed to their pseudonyms as they are to their brand of toothpaste who don't suffer people with no skin in the game.

Back in the heyday of Reddit, five different "power users" were the same person. He got a job, aged out, and that was that.

I'm well aware that I'm the elephant in the room here. To me, the issue is that ideas should be put forth to be defended or debated in order to refine thinking and persuade others to your cause. To others, the issue is that ideas should be put forth to reinforce your self-esteem as people agree with them. I mean, that's Facebook in a nutshell - like my post or unfollow me. And under that paradigm - the paradigm of "engagement" - it's difficult to develop a culture of disagreement. It's difficult to create a space where someone else can be wrong but not your enemy. And so very, very many ideas on the Internet these days are deadly. Your right to bear arms kills black people. Simple as that. Your libertarian worldview creates poverty. Simple as that. And many of our dearly departed didn't like having their favorite ideas challenged.

Not sorry.

kleinbl00  ·  4 hours ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Pubski: July 8, 2020

Theoretically? Rights never changed on that thing so mostly it was assorted studio flacks whacking at it until money flowed.

And then it test marketed terribly so they reshot 40% of it.

It was a clusterfuck.

kleinbl00  ·  6 hours ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Pubski: July 8, 2020

    The Millenials and Zoomers are the first whole generations to ever have the opportunity to have their shit called out at a young age, and from what I've seen they take it better than the boomers and non-technical Gen Xers who have spent more of their lives unchallenged.

There are GenX and Boomers who had never seen the Internet before Facebook, and there are GenX and Boomers who saw Facebook and knew immediately it would be the end of the Internet.

Every single GenX or Boomer on Hubski is the latter. I would go as far as to say that every single GenX or Boomer on any non-specialized forum is the latter.

kleinbl00  ·  6 hours ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Pubski: July 8, 2020

Lol 3 different screenplays, zero actual novels

kleinbl00  ·  6 hours ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Pubski: July 8, 2020

and I'm maybe a decade older than you are...

My greater point is there are places you can't fight the tide, and "the internet" is one of 'em. But I mean really, the usership of this website could fit on a bus. It can be influenced.

kleinbl00  ·  9 hours ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Soon we’ll all be cancelled

    It's not terribly interesting seeing a feed of mainstream news items that either challenge or support my view of the world, particularly my political one.

I think it's pretty silly to presume that mainstream articles are shared to inform rather than to discuss.

I can find information fuckin' anywhere. What I care about is what the people I find interesting think about it.

kleinbl00  ·  9 hours ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Pubski: July 8, 2020

That's a cop-out, though - every forum has its recognized style of discussion driven by whatever the consensus position is. Sometimes someone breaks out of the consensus and the consensus changes. This isn't limited to the Internet; anywhere people congregate and communicate there's a register and syntax of communication that people's messages and messaging group around. Parliament has always been more fast'n'loose than the House of Lords; as the Republicans started scoring more and more points for being rude on C-SPAN, the House of Representatives has gotten ruder and ruder.

Usenet was necessarily without memes so people had to communicate via in-jokes and .sigs. PHPBBs used different iconography to communicate different shorthand. I spent a lot of time on a screenwriting board whose style of communication was moderated, so you learned how to make your point without upsetting the moderator (who would call you on the phone if you stepped over the line). going from there to Reddit was a culture shock; Reddit refined my online knife-fighting skillz like nowhere else so when I got here, "put down the knife" took too long to internalize. On the other hand, I'm on professional beta-testing forums where speaking ill of Dear Leader will most assuredly cut off your access to the Nectar of the Gods and professional forums where you never criticize a colleague lest some crunchy leviathan from ancient yore decides to surface and cut you down to size using manuals that haven't been in print since the Wilson administration.

Reddit has become a much nicer place because it filled up with kids who rarely encounter criticism of any kind, unless it's ad-hominem shit-slinging on XBL. As a consequence it's become a place where you can't criticize someone's ideas because you'll blemish their fee-fees but you can call them all sorts of random names because everyone is used to be calling names. And that, I think, is where the conflict lies: the older generation is used to being able to question each others' ideas without anyone taking it personally while taking it very personally when personally attacked while the younger generation's ideas are never questioned lest it cause existential injury but calling someone an idiotic shitcamel with five exclamation points is just people talking.

I will agree with you that I have more enthusiasm for defending my points than most. However, I take pains to do so within the register of the space. If anything, I'd say that people come here expecting the register to suit their wants, rather than recognizing that they need to adjust to suit the space. And for people who insist on their right to

their way through any debate, Hubski is frustrating.

kleinbl00  ·  9 hours ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Pubski: July 8, 2020

    I think we can all agree that Hubski needs some fixing.

I've noticed a lot of "somebody do something" in these discussions and a stunning paucity of "so I've decided to".

kleinbl00  ·  9 hours ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: "It is rotting American democracy from the inside out."

I'm going to do Heather Cox Richardson's latest first. We'll see if it's worth a two-fer.

kleinbl00  ·  10 hours ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: My new coup de coeur of a series

Yeah those passages are written by committee. Those of us in this hypercapitalist dystopia recognize it as a particularly Canadian attempt at young-adult government-funded box-checking.

kleinbl00  ·  10 hours ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: My new coup de coeur of a series

I have explained H&CF as "Mad Men, except the people in it suffer for being assholes rather than thriving."

Mad Men is a bunch of broken people careening and colliding through the '60s. There is no causality to speak of, no one ever suffers consequences for their choices and everyone who attempts to improve their own lot and the lot of those around them pays inhumane penalties. The people who suffer the most in Mad Men are the idealists, and they suffer at the willing and intentional hands of the narcissists. The people who like Mad Men are the people who hated the ending of Game of Thrones because the blue-eyed blonde naif always gets the guy, right? I mean, we've been taught that. They're the ones who think The Social Network is a superhero origin story. Mad Men is of, for and by nihilists.

H&CF is full of human people who hurt other human people despite knowing that they shouldn't and it ends up putting them in a worse position and they end up having to deal with more problems as a consequence. Drama in H&CF is wholly based on people making the wrong choices and then having to deal with the outcome. People are broken for a reason; people heal or don't heal for a reason. Relationships evolve. Actions play out over seasons. H&CF is of, for and by people who believe in karma.

kleinbl00  ·  10 hours ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Inside the black box

    Making Ayn Rand out to be the product of her times is also the best "fuck you" to her ideology though so it can't be wholly apologia.

Okay well I hadn't considered that and now I am pleased.

By the time I found out libertarianism was based in even shakier philosophical grounds than scientology I had long since evaluated it as an ornate ex-post-facto justification for selfishness-as-philosophy so I've never so much as read a page of her stuff. Action Philosophers is hilarious though.

kleinbl00  ·  11 hours ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: My new coup de coeur of a series

Anne is pretty great. My wife was a fan and she got me involved. I don't think they could easily have done that character in that time period in that era without getting pretty deep into aboriginal abuse; the fact that they do gender, sexuality and inequality is cool as far as I'm concerned.

If you like Anne you should probably give The Order a try. It's got a pretty serious Xena tongue-in-cheek vibe that they never quite nail? But it's fun.

Longmire is Murder, She Wrote if instead of Angela Landbury you've got one of the Agents from Matrix along with Starbuck from Battlestar and Lou Diamond Phillips. And if instead of being in a really murdery New England town it's in New Mexico pretending to be Montana. That entire series was filmed a two hour drive from the house I grew up in. The tonal shift from "Produced by A&E" to "produced by Netflix" is pretty jarring but you get over it.

The first season of Broadchurch is great. The rest are the opposite of great.

These are all of a continuum; "if you like this you'll like that". If there are two shows that I would wholeheartedly recommend just because they are brilliant they are



kleinbl00  ·  1 day ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Inside the black box

I'm in such a weird, shitty mood that I'm halfway tempted to write an apologia for Ayn Fucking Rand.

I think she was a middle-class Russian kid whose family lost fuckin' everything to the Bolsheviks. Her dad managed to open a pharmacy only to have it stolen. Her family were wiped out in Leningrad before she could get them to the USA. "The State" was not a comforting presence in her life.

The people who interpreted Rand definitely had a milder experience with "The State" than she did. Libertarians see the villains of Atlas Shrugged as FDR and LBJ; her worldview was informed by Stalin and Hitler. And I mean... she went from Stalin's Russia to Cecil B. DeMille's Hollywood. This would teach you a few things: (1) Trust no one (2) I me mine (3) Run Sammy Run.

Now. Give that person a cult.

kleinbl00  ·  1 day ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Why Billionaires Actually Buy Art

No. This video is dumb. And the narrator isn't even interested in it.

There is a fascinating book on this subject. Point by point:

    1-Buy collection at low price from artiste

Sure but unless you're Charles Saatchi nobody cares.

    2-increase interest in said artist:

The way you do this is you, rich person, tell another rich person to buy said artist. Articles? nobody gives a fuck. Gallery? Sure, but really it's about the fairs. Remember, if you're telling other rich people to buy the artist you get a finders' fee and the auction house gets twenty percent.

Tax havens aren't that big a deal - even if your government knows you bought it, they can't tax it until it lands in your home country so this whole sinister secrecy bullshit doesn't even matter. Fundamentally it's garden-variety speculation on a volatile asset and it's no more dirty and underhanded than fucking stocks.

kleinbl00  ·  1 day ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: "It is rotting American democracy from the inside out."

Seventh grade we did reports on something involving government. Kid stood up and told us about the electoral college. We called him a liar. Dude sat there smiling while the teacher let us know that no, children, your vote doesn't count worth a shit, never has, never will, and that's why we were about to see Michael Dukakis spend every tuesday in Vermont but the last president to visit our state was Kennedy.

Let's not mince words; the Senate was a compromise.

kleinbl00  ·  1 day ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: "It is rotting American democracy from the inside out."

    Currently trudging through Lies My Teacher Told Me which makes the compelling argument that the majority of American history is battles over systemic racism.
kleinbl00  ·  1 day ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: "It is rotting American democracy from the inside out."

Brazil tried it for a while.

    The Brazilian Constitution of 1988 states that only valid votes count. However, the Electoral Code of 1965 provides for the annulment of elections if there are more than 50 percent of null votes in a majority election (it doesn’t mention abstention). Still, many Brazilian sociologists and political scientists believe the threat of annulling the vote will do little to alter the strategy of the main political parties.


kleinbl00  ·  1 day ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: "It is rotting American democracy from the inside out."

The solution is federal education standards and federal education funding.


Full stop.

It's deeply irrational that we have federal highways, a federal bureau of investigation, a federal postal system, a federal engineering program and education? Is whatever Cletus thinks will keep his daughter from getting any librul ideas.

kleinbl00  ·  1 day ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: "It is rotting American democracy from the inside out."

The problem isn't "teaching to the test" the problem is that to sell a textbook you have to find a buyer. The biggest buyers of textbooks are states -because whatever your textbook teaches, it has to pass a purity test before you get state funding to buy it.

The southern states figured out that if they change out their textbooks a lot they get to influence what those textbooks say a lot. The biggest buyer is Texas. So in general, every textbook you find has been approved by the Texas Board of Education.

Reactionary, racist, religious shitheels love being on the school board. They know it's how they win the culture war. In 10th grade all our science teachers had to stamp every biology book with a little paragraph about how evolution was a theory and how we were strongly encouraged to learn alternate explanations for the origins of man. Tests? Sure. Same reason. SAT and ACT most definitely been approved by the state board of education.

kleinbl00  ·  1 day ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: A Letter on Justice and Open Debate

    Who could have been paying attention the past 4 or 5 years and thought "the way to defeat bad ideas is by exposure, argument, and persuasion"?

Look - this jawbreaker included... some stuff.

    History is fundamentally one long litany of rich people being fuckers to poor people, of aristocrats fucking each other over every chance they get, of the little guy being crushed in the wheels turned by the big guys.

    The book that won the Pulitzer is Rousseau and Revolution. It's 1092 pages, or 57 1/2 hours. And I sat through the whole book hating Rousseau and wanting the Revolution to come and cut off the heads of all these fuckers. And then it ends right as Louis 16 abdicates and you have to read The Age of Napoleon to get to The Reign of Terror and it's so much worse than you thought it could be that you just want to hug your kid.

Americans don't learn much about The Terrors. It would be instructive if we did so; what we learn is that the French, inspired by the Americans, threw off the yoke of tyranny. What we don't learn is that the yoke of tyranny threw itself right back on again, and then they threw it off again, and then they threw it back on again, and

Salem catches a lot of shit for witch trials. Two hundred accused, 20 executions. The British burned 500 witches over a hundred year period; fuckin' German tribes burned 25 thousand over the same period. The Germans? Most of that was warring tribes taking a town and burning everyone that burned their "witches" the year before last. All becomes attrition and reprisal. That was after the thirty years' war had depleted their stocks so much that the Church OK'd polygamy.

The instinct behind this is fear. It's not fear of being liberal, or fear of being conservative. It's fear that you're in charge, and those who are in charge when the rules change tend to suffer the worst.

For the past 80-90 years, rich white people have been confident that they will remain rich. They have been confident that they will face no consequences from upholding a system that rewards them from being white. That's changing. Superiority reduced to equality is a reduction nonetheless and when we all judge ourselves relative to our fellow man, raising our fellow man means diminishing ourselves.

The Terrors were about the petty bourgeoisie taking down the aristocracy, and then the aristocracy taking down the petty bourgeoisie, and then the petty bourgeoisie taking down the aristocracy forever and ever amen. There's a lot of historians in that list and they've got to smell something on the wind.

So they're writing an angry editorial to Twitter.

kleinbl00  ·  2 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: The Virus At Sea

They never mention his buddy the performer after the first few slides.

Wonder if he's still on the boat.