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user-inactivated  ·  3567 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Paddling into the Waves or What I Learned from Not Muting

Then why oh why do we talk about it so much





thenewgreen  ·  3567 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  

There are a few people that were muted of late and took offense by it. Much of the anger/annoyance stems from not being able to respond to someone after they've muted them mid conversation. It's a valid concern. But, I'm pretty fucking tired of talking/reading about itl. I think "hubski" is my least favorite topic to discuss while on hubski.

Let's talk baseball. That piece on Anaximander that you posted was fantastic.

Alright, I'm heading to bed. G'night pal.

user-inactivated  ·  3566 days ago  ·  link  ·  

How about I steer it towards a more hubski cultural discussion?

I don't like mute because I'm seriously terrified of commenting now. If I piss off one of the established individuals on the site, since the site is so tight nit as it is and it's practically impossible for me to insert myself into this existing community, I'll probably end up in a pile of forgotten users. Do I really want to spend my time and effort making quality posts and comments if I'm just going to be shoved in the corner?

I see posts all over the place, I read them, I have something to say, and I don't. Hubski is like one of those old western movies. You walk into town as a new guy, walk into the bar, and since nobody knows you everyone points a gun at you.

You guys can't understand this because you are already established. It's hard for someone to see this community from this vantage point when you are in your comfy position, just like elected leaders can't really see what it's like to be a peon anymore.

Not only that, but you keep giving these dumbasses making dumb points since they feel hurt about being muted more attention than people who are trying to productively talk about it. I have not been muted to my knowledge, yet everyone keeps looking past my posts. Why? Because I take time to make my comments, and wait until everyone is burnt out on the subject.

Yet from the primer:

    Another difference is the "speed" of the site. Users are encouraged to slow down, digest, and discuss the topics fully. Commenting on older posts is similarly encouraged. The Hubski algorithm will inject that old post back into the feed whenever the discussion revives.

The algorithm, yes. The users? No. That's the important one. If a topic they feel is over is brought up by the algorithm, the users just look past it.

This is true for every comment based internet discussion because of our NOW NOW NOW society. I thought hubski was different, it's not.

I've been commenting on the internet for 18 years. I had so much more positive experiences in the early years when my statements were dumb and not very well thought out. Now that I want to have serious discourse our society is just done with it. We just want to make quick generalized statements and fight over those generalizations rather than think things through.

Fuck it. I quit.

havires  ·  3566 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I don't like mute because I'm seriously terrified of commenting now. If I piss off one of the established individuals on the site, since the site is so tight nit as it is and it's practically impossible for me to insert myself into this existing community, I'll probably end up in a pile of forgotten users. Do I really want to spend my time and effort making quality posts and comments if I'm just going to be shoved in the corner?

Here here.

dirkson  ·  3566 days ago  ·  link  ·  

There are also other concerns floating about - Near as I'm aware, I'm not muted, haven't muted any non-spammers, and am unlikely to be muted by the majority of posters. But even given all that, I see muting as a horrible, horrible thing, and have been speaking out against it consistently.

cgod  ·  3567 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yea, hubski is at it's worst when it talks about it's self (mostly). I've got over 1200 days here and I've only got one spammer muted and as far as I know, never been muted.

I do like that we always joke about burning the place down when mk leaves and that this time a few..,well hell I don't know who these people are, never noticed them till mute gate broke out, took a swing at that joke.

Meriadoc  ·  3566 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Let's not talk baseball. My team lost last night on a walk on home run in the most storybook written game possible where we were the obvious villains.

:(

rezzeJ  ·  3566 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Completely agree. Seeing my Chatter page filled with people endlessly arguing about such a trivial issue greatly detracts from my Hubski experience. No matter how valid it may be.

AlderaanDuran  ·  3567 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Let's talk baseball.

Somewhat baseball related; I got to see the Thudnerbirds F-16s fly over the rooftop bar I was at during the national anthem of the All Star game. It was pretty great. That and bars downtown Minneapolis were open til 4am on account of all star week... (bar time is by law 2am here normally.) Not that I could stay up that late if I tried anymore...

thenewgreen  ·  3567 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Not that I could stay up that late if I tried anymore...
-Why is that? You getting old AD? You guys are expecting, right? You think you can't stay up now..... just wait.
AlderaanDuran  ·  3567 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yeah, my wife is technically full term with our daughter right now. Could be any day now. I'm not worried about sleep or staying up late after the baby comes, looking forward to it. My career has already made me accustom to functioning on little to no sleep. I'll be a soldier and handle it.

We're old suburbanites anyway now. Don't go out a ton anymore, rather stay in. Tonight for instance, I'm just having some cocktails and editing photos from a shoot and listening to music... and getting distracted by Hubski.

thenewgreen  ·  3566 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Don't go out a ton anymore, rather stay in. Tonight for instance, I'm just having some cocktails and editing photos from a shoot and listening to music... and getting distracted by Hubski.
-Replace editing photos with editing music and we're not so different AD. What was on the menu? What were you drinking?

When you're not able to go out as often as you used to, you get much better at crafting drinks and cooking etc. At least that has been my experience.

Best of luck with the baby, I'm excited for you. As you may know, our daughter is 3 now and it's been the greatest experience of my life having her around. She's a blast and the relationship between a father and a daughter is a very special one.

Quick story:

When we got the ultrasound and found out we were having a girl, the first person I called was my father. I asked him, "dad, what did you prefer having/raising boys or girls?"

He responded, "Steven, I can't tell you that." but after some prodding he said this, "The other night I was at your sister's house and we watched a movie together. Mid war through the movie she fell asleep with her head on my shoulder. When was the last time YOU did that?"

-So there you have it. My father's way of saying raising/having a daughter is more rewarding than a son. I took no offense to it, in fact I can now see where he is coming from. The other day my daughter asked me if she could marry me when she gets big. The amount of love there is astounding.

Enjoy the journey pal. Be sure to check in and let us know how it went when you can. All my best!

AlderaanDuran  ·  3566 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    What was on the menu? What were you drinking?

We made some pasta with alfredo sauce and shrimp. The wife then promptly went to bed at like 8pm. Then I had a few 7and7s and and got some much needed time in Lightroom to edit photos.

Thanks for the thoughts on daughters, I've heard that sentiment a lot from numerous other parents I know. When coming into have a baby I was kind of all, "I hope it's a boy", but didn't really have any reasoning beyond being male myself. But the more I hear, read, and think about it, the more I'm looking forward to having a girl. I really didn't care too much either way, but my wife was ecstatic to have a girl I think. Her mom died when she was in her teens and they had a really close relationship, and she feels this is kind of her giving back to the universe in a way. We're naming her after her late mother and grandmother.

I'll be sure to check back in at some point.

thenewgreen  ·  3566 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Wow, the parallels are amazing. My wife's mother died when she was nearly 13 and they too were very close. My wife was ecstatic to have a girl. We recently had our son and my wife was very conflicted about having a boy. She really wanted all girls. Turns out, she's beyond in love with the kid and couldn't be happier with him.

Turns out the old adage, "I just want a healthy child," is pretty spot on.

Again, my best to you three.

AlderaanDuran  ·  3555 days ago  ·  link  ·  

So... on the subject of daughters and our wives being similar...

Went to the local clinic for our weekly checkup last week on Thursday, wife's blood pressure was astronomically high and she had protein in the urine. Her Ob pretty much told her she had preeclampsia, and told us we needed to go directly to labor and delivery at our hospital. When we asked why, she said, "You're going to meet your daughter in the next 24 hours one way or another."

Ran home, grabbed the go-go-pregnant bag, headed to the hospital, got into a labor delivery room. They ran some more tests, yada yada, said "Welp, we need to get that baby out of you! We're going to put you on some drugs and break your bag in the morning." They did. Wife gave birth "traditionally". Long story short, I have a healthy and beautiful baby girl as of 7/25/2014.

All I wanted was a healthy child and so far I have one and couldn't be happier. I don't think I've cried in years but man when she came out and started crying and I knew she was alive.... biggest relief I've ever felt in my life. Never really had a chance to bond with a being growing inside my wife, but at that moment I wanted nothing more than to hear her crying and know she was alive. That was a pretty powerful moment.

Honestly, just feel relieved the whole pregnancy thing is over. "Is it going to be okay?", "Will it be healthy?", "Is my wife okay?", "When will the moment come?" All that stuff is gone now. Such a relief!

Was hoping she'd be born on my birthday, 7/30, but alas that was not in the stars. She was born 7/25. You can't win them all.

thenewgreen  ·  3554 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Congratulations AD! There's nothing like hearing/seeing your child for the first time, especially when there are complications. I've been there.

My best to you three. You have a daughter now, you are someone's father and will likely be the most important person in her world. -such an awesome responsibility!

Enjoy pal!

veen  ·  3554 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Congratulations on a healthy kid! How cute is she?

AlderaanDuran  ·  3554 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Pretty cute. I'm a guy who thinks most babies are ugly, and I'd totally call my baby ugly if she was, but she turned out pretty cute. She looks a lot like me... but yeah, I'm obviously biased.

thenewgreen  ·  3554 days ago  ·  link  ·  

She is objectively cute, nice work. Now, find her a job. Babies are such freeloaders :)

user-inactivated  ·  3567 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yeah! I thought it was interesting. Pre-Socratic is just not something I've ever delved into.

Cards won tonight! Seems like the ASG break was the longest in history. Best three hours of my week watching a tight 3-2 game earlier.

Night man! For positivity, listen to that Kishi Bashi post before you go to sleep.

Meriadoc  ·  3566 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Okay, you and I have to talk seriously for a moment.

What the fuck, Matheny? I know you like your guys and all, but starting Wainwright over Kershaw? And after he goes loopy starting, having Neshek go in for more pain?

Thankfully I'm over in the AL, but I imagine the lashing he's getting all over the National is ridiculous.

user-inactivated  ·  3566 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Well, Wainwright has the best numbers of any starter in baseball and Neshek has among the best numbers of any reliever? I mean, it doesn't seem particularly complicated.

Meriadoc  ·  3566 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Don't get me wrong, I love the hell out of both of them, but it seemed strange for the all-star game to start Wainwright over Kershaw.

user-inactivated  ·  3566 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Why?

lil  ·  3566 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Baseball, yes! Unfortunately Blue Jays are going from hero to zero. so sad. Actually going to a game tomorrow.

thenewgreen  ·  3567 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I did, it's an amazing song, pretty much perfect, isn't it!

beezneez  ·  3566 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I thought it was a useful discussion to have for the community's sake. It is good see how other users are taking advantage of hubski's functions, or reasons why they may dismiss them. Reflection, I think, is a powerful tool.