I have become so cynical when it comes to Trump that I'm not yet sure it’s real or a PR stunt? It would achieve the following: Skip debate Engender sympathy Show that hydroxychoriquin works Show that it’s not a big deal Show how "strong" he is It's unlikely, but I wouldn't put it past him. If there is any semblance of justice, he will experience the long term symptoms that so many others have; due to his complacency. 200k+ dead. That would be justice. His supporters are praying. His detractors are celebrating. If they celebrate too hard the few undecideds could be pushed to a sympathetic support of him. Nobody will care anymore about his taxes or his white supremacy. His Covid will now dominate the news cycle. It will be all about him. Him. Him. If he has no symptoms, he will relish this.
I absolutely hate to agree with you. The likely hood of a PR stunt is too high. And for his detractors, if he doesn't get seriously ill, it will be hard to prove that it was a PR stunt. For his supporters, it will be all the proof they need that they were right.
“It’s not cynical to assume a liar is lying.” -Matt Jones
I should have provided the needed reference, these aren’t my words. A musician and historian named Matt Jones made this comment on Facebook. I felt it was worth propagating. But I can’t take the credit for the original thought. I’ll edit it accordingly. Also, he’s a Michigan artist. Check him out. Given your love for Sufjan, I think you’d dig. Here’s an old track of his I’ve always liked:
LOL Can you join President Trump? He’s heading to Houston, Texas next week and he specifically requested that we reach out to YOU to accompany him. We’re nearing the end of the most important Election in American history, and the President really wants to hear your thoughts on how our campaign is doing. Patriots like you are what fuel our movement and he can’t think of anyone else who he’d rather get advice from right now. This is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to enter to win a trip to meet your favorite President and discuss key issues heading into November, and all you have to do is enter. Please contribute ANY AMOUNT TODAY to enter to win a trip to meet President Trump in Houston, Texas. Clowns sent that out at 5 this morningKB,
DOUBLE LOL Lyin’ Obama and Phony Kamala Harris are calling up their Liberal MEGA DONORS to come and rescue Joe Biden’s failing campaign - They’re holding a COASTAL ELITE fundraiser RIGHT NOW. We all know that Sleepy Joe isn’t fit to be YOUR President. We know it. You know it. And even Obama knows it - that’s why he’s holding a fundraiser with Kamala instead of Joe, who is probably already asleep in his basement. It’s obvious that the Liberals are uniting behind their pathetic candidate to try and take us down, and more importantly, to take YOU down. This is the most important Election in the history of the WORLD. We can’t sit on the sidelines when MEGA DONORS are maxing out to Biden. We need to make a statement, KB, and we can’t think of any better way to do it than by OUTRAISING this radical duo on their big night! Literally went out as that fucker was shambling towards a helicopter to fly his ass ten miles. I only wish you could see the bold, the italics, the underlines and the highlighting to go with the caps lock.KB,
I keep clicking to and clicking away from this page. My brain can't process my thoughts on this... but I can't seem to focus on work either, so I'll try to barf out the random thoughts and maybe that will help. - it's a hoax - he gets better and says "see? it's not so bad" or "see? Hydroxychloroquine works!" - it's real - he's asymptomatic and says "see? it's not so bad" or "see? Hydroxychloroquine works!" - he gets super sick but recovers - get gets a lot of sympathy votes - he gets sick and dies - this could RALLY the base... but I don't think it's enough to beat Biden - part of me wants to say I hope he dies... but that feels harsh. I seldom wish death on anyone, even this person. - I want to take the high road... but it feels better to wish he gets really, really sick. - Is this some form of karma? - I think I'm most worried about him being just fine and carrying on. that will completely obliterate the pandemic response in this country. sorry for the brain barf.
I’m not gonna lie. The thought of him reading, or hearing people calling him obese gives me solace. He’s so cruel to people, he is such a bully that it’s time he get a taste of his own medicine.
My imperfect communication this morning: >no waiiii> > and Melania too>hey <SO>, Trump tested positive
> AND MALARIA TOO ?!?!
White House reports that he is experiencing "mild symptoms". Melania is also experiencing symptoms, as is Hope Hicks. Chris Christie says no one was wearing masks during debate prep with Trump. "I was at the White House from Saturday afternoon through lunchtime on Tuesday, on and off during those days. I was tested every day I went to the White House," Christie said. "The last test I took was on Tuesday morning and I was negative, and I'm going to get a test this morning to see if that status has changed. I feel fine, I don't feel any symptoms at this time, and I obviously hope it remains that way." Christie said there were about five or six people helping with debate prep, including Trump's personal lawyer, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani. Christie and Giuliani might get it too. That is a long time and a lot of talking indoors. The fact that they are all feeling symptoms this early (seems like all tests were negative on Tuesday) could suggest that they all got a significant dose of virus. I'll have to dig it up, but there is evidence that the size of the dose could play a role in the course and severity. I don't buy the conspiracies that Trump doesn't have it. He just played roulette long enough."No one was wearing masks in the room when we were prepping the president," he told ABC's "Good Morning America," after Trump announced he and First Lady Melania Trump tested positive for COVID-19.
Herman Cain and Boris Johnson also had "mild symptoms" for a few days, maybe a week. Shit goes down hill fast for many of these patients. Obese septuagenarian is not a great demographic to be in. Don't know if he's hypertensive, but if so, we could all be watching his funeral by election day.
Yeah, I’m convinced he definitely has it. He wouldn’t go to Walter Reed if he didn’t. Too much of a sign of weakness. He doesn’t do that. He has it.
He's apparently headed to Walter Reed. Echoes of BoJo's brush with the 'rona.
This is wild. This whole year is nuts. 1968 has nothing on us.
Someone needs to make a meme of aliens convening with the line: “looks like we’ve been pushed to November.”
I'm going with PR stunt. It's too good. Too perfect. "Oh, I can't do another debate with you ... I'm too sick." "This Chinese Flu has hit the highest levels of our government, and only a strong President like me can fight China." "Melania and I feel and understand your pain. As I have said from the beginning, COVID is serious, and even we can get it... we understand... we are your friend and fellow sufferers..." Ya know, if this motherfucker was even slightly the businessman he claims he is, he could sell 60 million MAGA masks tomorrow for $25 a pop, and bring in $1.5bn. Then he could say he was taking hydroxy - "I believe in it so much, I even invested in the company!" - and make another few billion. Except... His personal assistant, Hope Hicks, also has it. She tested positive on Wed, to zero fanfare. And the Secret Service has an out of control outbreak that they can't seem to contain. So yeah... he probably has it. His meetings with Fauci are about to get a lot more interesting...
Really? Even for Trump that is hard to believe, can especially given how maybe people around him game had it. It seemed like only a matter of time. I think we'll find out if it's a lie. No one in the administration can keep their mouths shut. I very rarely wish harm to anyone, but I actually think Trump dying would be good for the country, so I'm hoping he does have it. He fits the demographic of someone who wouldn't do well.
Lies don’t matter anymore. Even when they’re glaring like a giant pile of shit in the sun. His supporters will gleefully step right in it. And if repeated enough times, “I had it and it was no problem.” People believe it. I’m cynical but why shouldn’t I be?
I was thinking the opposite this afternoon, and that Trump dying could be the ultimate black swan. What if he did, and suddenly all of the real Republicans holding their nose or refusing to vote Trump suddenly had no problem rushing back into the fold to elect a traditional conservative, while conservative independents no longer tilted in as large numbers to Biden.No way anyone is supporting a Mike pence coup.
They just published a story about that in the times today. tl;dr is basically it's up to the States to send whatever elector they want, and then it's up to congress to certify the electors. There problem is that only a handful of states have laws that spell out who the electors should vote for of the candidate is dead or otherwise unable to serve. But other states have clear laws that the electors have to vote for the candidate who won the popular vote on the state, with no exceptions. So essentially nobody has any clue how to proceed.