I haven't watched top gear in a long time. I get my vehicle fixes from the Motor Trend youtube, which has some content I really dig (and some that sucks, but whatev).
I absolutely love Motortrend's YouTube channel, especially Roadkill. Top Gear, while I can see the appeal, has never really been my thing. If you want to check out two amateur car channels, I highly recommend both Regular Car Reviews and That Dude in Blue. Mr. Regular can be annoying at times but he's also very insightful while That Dude in Blue often gets his hands on some very nice builds.
In some ways I see the appeal, and in others I enjoy watching people who can actually wrench on a car. People love watching assholes when they're not being assholes to them.
Yas. Seriously, amazon - Fuck Clarkson and the other monkeys. Just hire Top Gear's editors.
Personal question: We kinda enjoyed Transparent, even though a lot of the characters in it are narcissistic shits. How terrible is it from your perspective? I recognize that this is like asking my black friends about rap music, but I am the high fivin'est white guy on Hubski.
Well someone's got to make up for my complete lack of high fivin'ness. I hear rap music and all I hear is Ground Bass underneath Concerto Grosso at the moment. I mean, I just think it's a middling show. It's not really about a trans woman transitioning in her 70s, it's actually about her 3 children who can't keep their own lives together - Specifically the youngest one who is probably the only character who's not completely self-absorbed (just mostly self-absorbed). Maura's a side character in her own "show", probably because showing trans people for what they are - Boring, and stumbling through life just like you - isn't actually exciting. It reinforces some dumb stereotypes, and Maura's played by a dude (Jeff Tambour's okay in the role), but could be worse - Could be this steaming pile of shitty stereotypes being played by a Eddie Redmayne:
You asked me if I'm gonna die soon with the Queen Discography and whatnot. But you ain't got NO room to talk when I've been on Hubski for almost two years now and you're still playing Wipeout. Also my favorite "I don't give a shit just play Netflix" show is Prison School. If Judge Judy were on there, it'd be that, however. My ultimate guilty pleasure.
Fair enough, Smash has basically been the same game with more characters since 1999. But you know they're working on a spiritual sequel, right? Formula Fusion. It looks slow but it's also only a year into development, so I'mma give it the benefit of the doubt.
Did not know that. DOPE.
I think it depends on what Amazon hopes or plans to do long term. If all they do is make a couple series of a car show and then it's done, I don't think they'll come out ahead. If they can buy recognizable names and personalities and use that to produce a modestly popular show that lasts beyond the retirement of Clarkson, May and Hammond, I think it could be a reasonable investment.
Game of Thrones Season 1: $60m House of Cards Season 1: $60m Orange is the New black Season 1: $40m (same link as above) But we're talking GBP not USD, so it's not $160m it's $244m. So Amazon, which has streaming as a "value add" on Prime, just paid a season of Game of Thrones, a season of House of Cards and a season of OITNB and Straight Outta Compton three times over for three British television producers. Combine that with the fact that Amazon Prime went from $79 to $99 pretty much to cover the increased cost of shipping. Best guess is Prime is pretty much priced at break-even on shipping with streaming as a loss leader. Which makes this a $244m loss leader. Or pretty much a Fire Phone and Straight Outta Compton three times over.
It's US$250M-ish for 36 episodes, so it isn't quite comparable to a single season of Game of Thrones or House of Cards. But your point is well taken: this has to be as successful as some of the recent wildly successful shows or it'll be a net loss.
Hmmm. Yeah, 3 seasons does change the equation. That still means, though, that they're looking at Game Of Thrones money for a variety show about cars. To be successful it has to convert $80m worth of people to Prime. At $100 per year, that basically means they need Clarkson et. al. to add a million prime subscribers. At best-guess 40m Prime subscribers that's a 3% uptick or so. I dunno. They might get that, but I doubt it. Amazon straight-up doesn't understand streaming or else they wouldn't try so hard to make me watch Mozart in the Jungle on a fricking fire stick.
Let's not get carried away. It's BBC America popular. Yeah it's popular in the UK but as a market, the UK is California, Oregon and Washington. Amongst the kiddies, John Oliver is "immensely popular." I don't see anyone throwing $244m at John Oliver. And remember - that's the above the line cost. That's salary. You still have to build a show. Dr. Who is "immensely popular." Dr. Who at $244m is batshit insane.
Top Gear has a weekly audience of 350 million viewers (it's in the Guiness Book of Records as most-watched factual show) and has made $225m in revenue for the BBC. Most of that comes from selling it to the 200+ countries it's broadcast in, but still, there's money to be made here.
Hmmm. You're right. Those are big numbers. That said, the MASH finale had 121m viewers, beating out "Who Shot JR" and the Superbowl... but AfterMash lasted 31 episodes and finished Season 1 tenth overall. It's a stupid amount of money for a media company that barely knows how to sell things to Americans, let alone a worldwide market. They have zero variety programming. And this is just the above-the-line charge - they still have to build a show. NBC's The Voice opened with $750k in above-the-line charges per episode. Hell's Kitchen pays $350k. Whatever this new Top Gear Thing is gonna be, they're paying $8m before they shoot a frame of footage. And I'll admit it - I hate fucking Jeremy Clarkson. One Simon Cowell is enough, thanks.
The example I'll offer is derivative bands. I've seen a band play a sold out 1000 capacity venue, but when a band with one of the members returned to town two months later, they couldn't sell 50 tickets. Hardcore fans will follow, but the real money is in the casual fans. Top Gear put up huge numbers, but it's going to take a great effort by Amazon to carry that over to a new show. As others noted here, the editing and production on Top Gear was excellent. I enjoy Top Gear as an entire show. Would I enjoy a show that with the same presenters but a lower production quality? Would I pay for an Amazon Prime account to watch it? No, probably not.That said, the MASH finale had 121m viewers, beating out "Who Shot JR" and the Superbowl... but AfterMash lasted 31 episodes and finished Season 1 tenth overall.
I agree with you, it is unbelievably popular worldwide, but It makes me wonder what the expansion plans are like for Prime.
It's gonna be a tough game for Amazon. They're trying to launch here too, but we already have multiple huge online webstores in the Netherlands: Bol.com is our Amazon and Coolblue is like Newegg. The Netherlands is small enough that almost all orders are one-day delivery even when you order at 11pm, and they're experimenting with same-day delivery already. Why the hell would I pay for 'fast' shipping from a store that has far less to offer than those?
I think you hit the nail on the head here. They're trying to capture an audience with this show that they hope will chine into other sales. I think part of what they're banking on is that this show has international appeal, something that they are probably hoping will allow them to get a better foothold in new markets.Which makes this a $244m loss leader.