I would like some input on a decision I’ve been turning over in my head for a while. I dropped out of college in the midst of mass disillusionment with college and my place in it. I didn’t have an area of interest as much as I asked any other student who I respected or liked who their favorite professor was — and then I simply took their classes. I didn’t know how to pick what to study and figured that anyone interesting can make any topic interesting. If you can communicate enthusiasm and passion, then paint drying becomes a worthy topic. Have you ever had a friend who was so funny or informative or creative that you could go on a walk with them, point at random things, and say, “Talk about that,” and you’d hang on every word? Well, that’s sort of how I did college.
Until they asked me to pick a major halfway through. (“Sir, you must declare a major.”) There happened to be a few professors I liked in the Political Science department so I decided to go with that. Well, a few of these professors left (sabbatical, retirement) the next semester. This happened concurrently with my explorations with partying and drugs, and since I didn’t see the reason in continuing a pointless, soul crushing, and ’SPENSIVE journey, I dropped out to pursue partying as much as I could.
About a year later, I noticed at that I hadn’t brushed my teeth in about a month. It’s funny the little things that cause us to stop and think. I know some people that brush their teeth even when drunk before going to bed, but I was not one of them. This small realization amidst partying non-stop started a cascade of realignments within myself that eventually led me to applying for and joining AmeriCorps, a year-long bout of community service, mainly to interrupt my lifestyle. And as I’ve talked about before, even with guarded expectations, it still completely changed my life. It was the first time that the inborn belief that I ought to be doing something special was reflected by the reality that I was doing something special.
That ended in November, 2014, and for most of 2015 I lived in Michigan working for organizations I served under AmeriCorps. I also had this primal urge to move to Colorado, a state I view as idealistic, progressive, outdoorsy and athletic, beautiful, self-sufficient, and so a week ago I moved here (yay!!!).
Part of the plan in moving here is to establish residency in Colorado, so that if I wanted to enroll back in college, I could at an in-state tuition rate. (The difference being huge, something like 20k for out of staters, 5k for in-staters for University of Colorado.) But the thing is… although I know much more about myself, am not as completely disillusioned with a College Education, I still don’t know what to fucking major in. This frustrates my attempts to even apply to college. If I don’t know what to do, I think finishing to finish is wrong-headed and disingenuous.
If a major is a specialization, then it ought to be something I’m at least (a) interested in or (b) something I want to grow proficient in. I’m interested in everything (disaster relief, psychiatry, education reform, governance and government, law, behavioral economics, evolutionary psychology, physical fitness and nutrition, etc.), so that guidepost doesn’t quite help. But there is something I want to grow more proficient in, something I also think I have a bit of a knack for. And that’s motivating, coordinating, leading, challenging, and developing young people.
What major is that?
I don’t think I want to be a teacher. I’ve shadowed teachers before and I don’t think it would hold my attention, there’s so much of it that I wouldn’t abide by, and it’s too sedentary.
Also, I’m very cause-oriented. I don’t like grinding away to make money, and if something isn’t directly connected to serving and helping others, I’m planning my way out and onto the next thing.
The good news is that, no matter what, I’m not joining school until the spring of 2017 (becoming a resident of the state puts me in a holding pattern regarding college). But I think about it a lot.
I always feel guilty talking about myself on hubski. I feel like I’m asking random strangers to indulge me. But because this website is much more to me than a random assemblage of anonymous usernames, I feel like it’s less a stab in the dark than a request of a distant, patient relative. So, whatcha got hubski? Should I finish school? If your job sounds at all related to anything I’ve said, what is it that you studied in school? What did you wish you studied?
Yeah, finish it. It's a good option to be able to have. My opinion: do the most difficult major that interests you, and consider a minor if you are really divided. From meeting you, my impression is that you could do any number of things well. You'd be a physician with killer bedside manner, you'd be a natural leader in an NGO. Time is going to pass no matter what. Do something you can imagine your future self being glad you did.
Wow. Thank you. It's hard to describe what someone else believing I can be does. I feel more capable. I feel like I should shoot even higher. Great advice. Thanks mkDo something you can imagine your future self being glad you did.
All you need to remember to brush your teeth diligently, even when you're fucked up, is one case of necrotizing gingivitis, once quaintly referred to as "trench mouth" among civil war soldiers. Side effects include spontaneously bleeding gums; try hiding or explaining that at the workplace. Some people seem to have naturally healthy mouths (b_b - but for those who do not, you learn quick you can't fuck around).
Consider me very much on the dental health bandwagon. I'm still on floss picks, but I think I'll make the switch tonight.
Good tip for brushing your teeth is to brush them when you don't want to eat something. For example if my eating for the day is off time wise, I may get a bit hungry late at night. I just brush my teeth, and the desire to eat fades away. While it is recommended to simply brush your teeth out of need, it is still an interesting tip.
Don't think in terms of majors. Think in terms of futures. Find five people who inspire you. Five people whose lives you'd love to lead. Ask them - even if they're famous (especially if they're famous) how they got to where they are. Pay attention. Cogitate. Then ask again.
So I know I'm very late to the game here but it sounds like a Masters in Public Health is what you want. Combines almost all of the things you were interested in. Law? There's a lot to learn about Public Health Policy. Behavioral Economics? That's Health Behavior. Finish your undergrad in just anything, anything at all with a focus on getting a Masters in Public Health.
I've been thinking about this all morning. I really like this. Except for it being two plus years away before I finish my bachelor's, this is enticing. Thanks. What made you find this old thread?
To be honest, getting your degree is a really good idea. It's OKAY to not know what you want to study. I changed my major from Liberal Arts to Art History before finally settling on Geography of all things. For me Geography was perfect - I took the Human/Cultural Route with it versus the technical mapping. It was an arts degree that brought together anthropology, sociology and a bit of psychology as well as a touch of history all into one place. So I got to take a lot of cool classes that would do things like talk about Edward Snowden or China's Censorship or Nature and Human Kind and so forth. Stuff that I aas already reading about and engaged in online. The funny bit? I got into it by accident. After really disliking my Art History major, because it sucked the fun out of art for me; I didn't want to take extra course load just to graduate. I found out that Geography fit my credits perfectly and decided instead of taking a particular winter term off, that I would go ahead and take the basic core requirements and then maybe swap my major or just stick out the Art History. Turns out, I really enjoyed the basic core requirement courses and actually graduated with a degree I appreciated. One piece of advice my dad gives me all the time that I have trouble to this day following, but still think is excellent advice is that: Also, you've had it rough! Dealing with so much from depression to partying to drugs to your teeth issues is not easy and that needs to be acknowledged. I had it really rough through school too. My brother died Fall of what was supposed to be my final year at school. From there I dealt with a myriad of mental health issues surrounding his death and then I fell really ill with an unusual disorder that causes me to be on a feeding tube to this day. I ended up being at school 3 extra years making me a 7th year senior. To be honest, it wasn't so bad. I was able to make lasting friendships from the start of my college career to the end of it. That has put me in touch with a few cool people who are alumni now, as well as current students & even a few freshmen even though, I've been an alumni for about 2.5years now. Everything I went through gave me a good perspective too. Suddenly grades weren't so important, and I took the pressure off myself. If I had to withdraw and get penalized - I just would. If I needed a lighter load one term, I'd do take a lighter load. If I needed a term off - I'd take it. I stopped stressing about grades and although I'm pissed that my GPA is just shy of a solid 3.0 it was very freeing to not over worry about my grades. I ended up failing a class even! The one on Edward Snowden of all things! Even that in its irritatingly special way was a good lesson in priorities. I don't tell you all of this to just talk about me, there is a point here. I work best by example - so maybe you can pull something from my personal story that relates or connects to you and helps you get through this time in your life! :-). Edit/PS: These types of real life issues are my favorite kind of Hubski posts! They're engaging and spark some cool personal discussion in my opinion. Makes everyone so much more human/normal.When you're facing a problem that seems difficult or unmanageable and have an insistent need to fix it that very second, don't. Sit back, accept that you have a problem and sit with it. Let some time pass before you do anything or make any major decisions because in 3 days or less you will have more information and things change/look differently.
Sounds like clear communication is your core passion. You look up to people who can communicate well, and every profession on your journey revolves around interpersonal skills. Check out the schools communication department. Talk to the teachers and you might be able to make your own major, of sorts, that focuses on how clear communication can impact the lives of others for the good.If you can communicate enthusiasm and passion, then paint drying becomes a worthy topic. Have you ever had a friend who was so funny or informative or creative that you could go on a walk with them, point at random things, and say, “Talk about that,” and you’d hang on every word?
How good are you at math? I disagree with everyone who says be "goal oriented" in deciding a major. If you're good at math, get an engineering degree (mechanical or electrical). That will make it so you can do whatever you want, if you're good at it, because you need to learn every skill you've mentioned.
I was good at math in high school, but then stopped pretty much senior year of high school >That will make it so you can do whatever you want That really appeals to me. How can you tell if you have a proficiency enough in math to go for an engineering degree?
So you haven't taken any college math? You'll have some catching up to do. Your typical engineering degree is going to have you go through three semesters of calculus, one of differential equations, and one of linear algebra, plus a whole lot of classes that rely on your knowledge of those subjects. I'd say take calc 1 at a community college (or even one of those free online things) and see how you stack up. If you can get a C without much effort, then you're probably good enough. If you can get an A then you're definitely good enough. It doesn't take a genius, just someone who's proficient.
Being someone with two years of college credits that aren't transferable to an engineering degree means that I'd probably have to spend another three or four years in college, right?
Don't finish to finish—finish because a degree opens doors. That doesn't mean you have to get one. But a degree opens a lot of doors. It sounds like you want to work for an NGO. So figure out what major enables that. Accounting? Business management? I dunno, do some research. Email some NGO leaders. If you don't feel like you can take another 3–4 years, finish your polsci degree and minor in accounting or whatever. Probably not one (maybe management?), but your Americorps experience should really help you there. You can get a degree in the most applicable thing, then use that plus your Americorps experience to get a leadership position. For what it's worth, I'm exactly the same. There are literally hundreds of things I'd love to do; and I didn't know what I wanted to do until I'd been doing it for about three years. None of the interests you mention are STEM. So, I don't know if you have any interest or aptitude in STEM. But that's my area, so, I have a recommendation to consider, if you do: Operations Research. OR is huge. It's a branch of mathematics, which directly applies to organising and making decisions. I'm convinced Apple exists today because Tim Cook is an OR genius. If you want to make a real, significant difference helping NGOs improve their efficiency and operations, and use their resources better, OR is a great choice. It's something a great many NGOs desperately need, and most don't even know it. It also opens more doors, like Industrial Engineering. If you have the maths aptitude, give it some thought. I repeat: a degree opens doors. That doesn't mean you have to get one. Don't. Also, I'm in #denver. We all need to have a #meetup one of these days.if something isn’t directly connected to serving and helping others, I’m planning my way out
motivating, coordinating, leading, challenging, and developing young people. What major is that?
I’m interested in everything
I didn’t have an area of interest
I always feel guilty talking about myself on hubski.
At my college they offered aBA in straight up liberal arts. I knew a guy who declared it as his major and he said there were two or three other people who were also pursuing a degree in liberal arts. He was interested in economics and was in a few of my more interesting economic classes. He had to concentrate on a handful of disaplines of his choice. See if it's an option for you?
I'd strongly advise against it. Liberal Arts is literally a non-major. It's worse than worthless. Most employers will see that on your resumé and make an immediate judgement, that you not only know nothing in the field they're hiring, but you can't make decisions, make bad decisions, are stupid, and countless other bad implications, regardless whether they're true. Get an English degree before Liberal Arts. At worst, English is worthless. Liberal Arts can be actively harmful.
Last year in college, and I have no clue what I'm doing with my major. I'm a Political Science major, and while my interest does lie in politics/policy I don't expect to be using the major in the way that we learn about it in class. I find that is the case with a lot of majors (of course this bars most of the STEM courses). I know a friend who studied genetics then went to law school. The undergraduate major really isn't all that important. Now in terms of your interest: In what way do you want to do all those things? I find that general ideas of motivation aren't always useful? Do you want to motivate/challenge/coordinate/develop youth to be more involved in a cause? Environment? Schooling? Politics? Do you want to help others indirectly through policy change? Or do you want a more direct role? What you have there is really too general of a interest. You need to focus in on one aspect of helping others/youth. I'm not sure if there is a major that you should necessarily look into because so many aspects of different majors could fit the description you've given. With that said as long as it isn't a financial burden I still recommend attending college.But there is something I want to grow more proficient in, something I also think I have a bit of a knack for. And that’s motivating, coordinating, leading, challenging, and developing young people.
I'm just starting my senior year of high school. My friends and I are being asked to make the biggest decisions we have ever made. And I don't know a single one who knows exactly what they want to do. When it comes up, we may list a couple different colleges, and the at least two majors, widely different. In the past three years, I've probably changed my expected major half a dozen times. A few weeks ago I was on some college visits out East, and most people hadn't cemented down what they wanted to do. It seemed that often times, the parents had more concrete expectations than the students had dreams. The point is, you sure aren't alone here. Undecided is the most popular major in the US. I was born in Ft. Collins, so I know more about CSU than I do about CU, but you should look into general majors and self-designed majors. A general humanities major could work well for you, or, if CU offers it, you could try to design your own major, maybe mixing public service and psychiatry (or psychology, since psychiatry would require med school) or something like that. In the long run, the less specific major may hurt you career wise, but you can hopefully supplement it with specific skills and qualifications in a chosen career. Before you start though, if you can support yourself for a bit, check out Colorado some. Mesa Verde, Great Sand Dunes, and Rocky Mountain National Park are all great. Go whitewater rafting if you can. I missed out on a lot of the 'touristy' stuff while I lived there, and had to go back the next summer to catch up on it. Eventually, even the mountains become less breathtaking and more helpful for finding West (or East, depends where you are). Which actually brings up another point. CO has some great opportunities for outdoor jobs. Check with the park services, or wilderness firefighting, or guiding. Heck, learn to train llamas and use them as pack animals (they're allowed more places than horses or donkeys). These sort of jobs often take a wide range of skills, but little in the way of certification and you can try them out for just a season before really commuting. It may be that you have to settle for a career with only a few things you love, but I'd say keep looking while you can.