The ad-hoc hubski women's collective has created a new tag: grrlski. Please see it as an invitation/shout-out to women on hubski to share ideas around a post or article. Everyone's welcome and we don't know or care what genderski you are... but we know who we are.
The first post so-labelled was this one originally posted by minimum_wage.
Take wage's post - I was interested in what other women thought of it. So if, say, one of us would like to have a women's perspective on the quantum reality problem, they can add that tag. Is there such a thing as a man's perspective and a woman's perspective? People can debate that. I think yes, definitely. My spousal unit (currently male) had a very different perspective on the movie her than I did. I also think if the OS had a male voice and the protagonist was a woman, it would be a very different movie - although the speculative science would be the same.
I am saying that I think it is unnecessary to add a tag if what you are seeking is a male perspective. Male is considered the unspoken norm. The pronoun "he" is used when talking about an example/theoretical person, for example. Generally, especially on the internet, one is assumed male until disclosed otherwise. This isn't about Hubski demographics although the demographics here certain demonstrate that (I think). I understand that Yossarian is probably just trying to be inclusive and equal with his proposal (and see? I don't know for sure Yossarian is a dude, I'm just assuming because it's the given ) but, due to both demographics and expectations/assumptions, I find the proposal unnecessary. The girls' tag is set up, in part, in order to seek out a female perspective because male is the norm. If male is the norm, why specially mark articles for it? You already know most of the comments on most of the article are by boys anyway. It would end up being tag clutter, ultimately.
I've had the impression that there is lots more female here than in most forums. I would guess something like a 30/70 or maybe even 40/60 ratio. Is it because it is a women-friendly place or because women don't really hide their gender here? Or maybe it's because a couple a women here are amongst the most active users... I'm honestly getting curious about hubski's demographics, we should do another survey this year.This isn't about Hubski demographics although the demographics here certain demonstrate that (I think)
Somebody did a survey a year ago and at the time, at least, it was a crushingly, depressingly male place. Like, 93/7. I am heartened to see a lot more outspoken, demonstrably female posters. Not only are women generally more interesting, the notable presence of women tends to make men more polite. Perhaps we hit a tipping point. I sure hope so. I know all the chicks are on Pinterest but I just cannot figure that place out.
Yes, but there is a difference. If the tag is used to say, "hey, I want an informed, gender specific response to this post" then it may be a valid tag. Not all posts beg such types of responses. For example, you could post this: http://hubski.com/pub?id=131056 and tag it #byyski and ask in the text "Fathers of Hubski do you help inform your children's diets or does this fall largely to the mother?" -Bad example, but you get the point.
I don't see myself ever using either tag, but far be it for me to care one way or the other about how people use tags. I think it's always cool to see things like tags being used in ways I'd not considered. Go to town byy's and grrl's :)
I see your point about clutter. But I think, because of the above-average parsing ability of the denizens of hubski, it would be a value add. Also, from the philosophical perspective, where a binary exists it should be recognized, so even though it happens, it doesn't happen unconsciously.
I like the idea of having this tag be used for posting great content that females on hubski might find especially interesting. I personally dislike #feminism posts online because it rarely pertains to something I find interesting and, more often than not, is about girls fighting back or some drama-causing squabble. I like the idea of #grrlski because it's a bit less "our club" or strictly about feminism and more "women might find this especially interesting."
"feminism" on the Internet is generally "what men are doing wrong." It's a total drag - in the first place, because there's plenty of shit that men are doing wrong and, speaking as a man who tries pretty hard to not be a part of the problem, there's generally very little I can do about it. Add to that the fact that these articles tend to attract angry women who want to vent and you're left with an echo chamber with zero gender mixing. Women are at a definite, documented disadvantage in most every part of the world but turning any feminist discussion into a gripe-fest is about as effective for change as discussing religion in /r/atheism.
I think this is a great way to get women to contribute!
Read response to Yossarian, but to clarify - the tag #grrlski is a request for a woman's perspective (assuming you think there might be such a thing). Anyone can use it. Everyone here knows that of the hundreds and hundreds of active hubbies, maybe 1% are interested in identifying as female. Note: responding to a grrlski post does not mean that you are a grrlski. We know who we are through the magic of private messaging.
All I think of from that tag is Riot Grrrl. But with one less r.