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OftenBen




Eat food, not too much, mostly plants.

Don't take me too seriously.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Non fui, fui, non sum, non curo


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It took me 8 days to be able to engage with you on this topic without just calling you a doo doo head.

The title IX case that J5 linked to? It most certainly will.*

    This isn't a criminal trial dawg.

It will likely become one, one way or another.

OftenBen  ·  link  ·  parent  ·  post: #MeToo comes for John Lasseter

    Well you haven’t denied thinking she’s lying

I am unable to form an informed opinion of that, not enough relevant data.

    respect her innocence

She's not on trial, I have no idea what this phrase means in context.

    you don’t have to because she’s not on trial.

Correct. There is a claim in the positive being made that Garrison Keillor is a sexual predator, or however we choose to label him. That claim is the one being evaluated in this case. My opinion of the person making the claim will be formed after the veracity of the claim has been examined by due legal process.

The fact that we are even discussing violence shows how far from civilized these discussions are.

OftenBen  ·  link  ·  parent  ·  post: The next "snake oil" coffee company.

This wonderful post has been waiting 489 days for me to discover it.

Laughed hard, thanks!

Mothballing is not an option? (Total approximate practical aircraft knowledge: nil)

OftenBen  ·  link  ·  parent  ·  post: #MeToo comes for John Lasseter

One of these people is accused of a crime, one is not.

It is a cornerstone of liberal democracy that the accused be presumed innocent until proven guilty.

OftenBen  ·  link  ·  parent  ·  post: #MeToo comes for John Lasseter

    There are plenty of people in the world that think if a man is found innocent then the woman is lying and should be locked up all while having zero proof of her lying

Not a position that I hold.

The burden of proof falls upon those making the claim. Negatives cannot be proven.

Prove the claim in the court of law and I'll join the posse to ride down and take him to the pokey.

OftenBen  ·  link  ·  parent  ·  post: #MeToo comes for John Lasseter

    You don’t have to form on opinion on innocence of either party,

You do actually, the presumption of innocence is a cornerstone of liberal democracy.

I hope that if these claims are able to be substantiated that it goes to trial and Keillor is proven guilty by a jury of his peers.

I am not okay with the court of public opinion deciding who does and does not get the axe. Mob rule is never okay and should not be aspired to.

OftenBen  ·  link  ·  parent  ·  post: #MeToo comes for John Lasseter

The presumption of innocence is vital to the functioning of our legal system.

OftenBen  ·  link  ·  parent  ·  post: #MeToo comes for John Lasseter

    “The woman and I were friends from before her employment to the end of it,” Keillor wrote. “we exchanged scores of emails about our children, travels, ordinary lives, and she signed many of hers ‘I love you.’” Later, he wrote, “When I retired, she asked for a job recommendation and I wrote a big booming one for her and she got the job.”

But all of that is nothing compared to a good golly gosh, 12 whole pages from a lawyers office.

Prove it in a court of law and I'll eat my hat. Until then, the court of public opinion has decided on another chewy morsel to macerate.

OftenBen  ·  link  ·  parent  ·  post: #MeToo comes for John Lasseter

Tell it to Garrison Keillor.

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