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lil  ·  1691 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: NEW TAG: grrlski

Take wage's post - I was interested in what other women thought of it. So if, say, one of us would like to have a women's perspective on the quantum reality problem, they can add that tag.

Is there such a thing as a man's perspective and a woman's perspective? People can debate that. I think yes, definitely. My spousal unit (currently male) had a very different perspective on the movie her than I did. I also think if the OS had a male voice and the protagonist was a woman, it would be a very different movie - although the speculative science would be the same.




Yossarian  ·  1691 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Makes sense. How about #byyski if you want a man's perspective, although based on the demographics of hubski, that tag probably isn't necessary.

_refugee_  ·  1691 days ago  ·  link  ·  

In this world, you never need to specially mark something in order to get a mans perspective. It's the given norm.

OftenBen  ·  1691 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Does that mean that the tag has no value? (Not trying to start a fight, looking at it as egalitarian-ly as possible)

_refugee_  ·  1691 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I am saying that I think it is unnecessary to add a tag if what you are seeking is a male perspective. Male is considered the unspoken norm. The pronoun "he" is used when talking about an example/theoretical person, for example. Generally, especially on the internet, one is assumed male until disclosed otherwise. This isn't about Hubski demographics although the demographics here certain demonstrate that (I think). I understand that Yossarian is probably just trying to be inclusive and equal with his proposal (and see? I don't know for sure Yossarian is a dude, I'm just assuming because it's the given ) but, due to both demographics and expectations/assumptions, I find the proposal unnecessary.

The girls' tag is set up, in part, in order to seek out a female perspective because male is the norm. If male is the norm, why specially mark articles for it? You already know most of the comments on most of the article are by boys anyway. It would end up being tag clutter, ultimately.

elizabeth  ·  1691 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    This isn't about Hubski demographics although the demographics here certain demonstrate that (I think)

I've had the impression that there is lots more female here than in most forums. I would guess something like a 30/70 or maybe even 40/60 ratio. Is it because it is a women-friendly place or because women don't really hide their gender here? Or maybe it's because a couple a women here are amongst the most active users...

I'm honestly getting curious about hubski's demographics, we should do another survey this year.

kleinbl00  ·  1691 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Somebody did a survey a year ago and at the time, at least, it was a crushingly, depressingly male place. Like, 93/7.

I am heartened to see a lot more outspoken, demonstrably female posters. Not only are women generally more interesting, the notable presence of women tends to make men more polite.

Perhaps we hit a tipping point. I sure hope so. I know all the chicks are on Pinterest but I just cannot figure that place out.

_refugee_  ·  1686 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Pinterest: a place for people to make virtual lists of virtual things that are pretty to look at.

I never understood it either, I think it took virtual-ness one step too far for me.

thenewgreen  ·  1691 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yes, but there is a difference. If the tag is used to say, "hey, I want an informed, gender specific response to this post" then it may be a valid tag. Not all posts beg such types of responses. For example, you could post this: http://hubski.com/pub?id=131056 and tag it #byyski and ask in the text "Fathers of Hubski do you help inform your children's diets or does this fall largely to the mother?" -Bad example, but you get the point.

Yossarian  ·  1691 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think users should use either tag whenever they feel it's necessary to speak to one specific gender, otherwise keep things gender-neutral. As a sidenote, I prefer #boyski to #byyski, and #girlski to #grrlski for that matter.

thenewgreen  ·  1691 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I don't see myself ever using either tag, but far be it for me to care one way or the other about how people use tags. I think it's always cool to see things like tags being used in ways I'd not considered. Go to town byy's and grrl's :)

OftenBen  ·  1691 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I see your point about clutter. But I think, because of the above-average parsing ability of the denizens of hubski, it would be a value add. Also, from the philosophical perspective, where a binary exists it should be recognized, so even though it happens, it doesn't happen unconsciously.

_refugee_  ·  1691 days ago  ·  link  ·  

And the solution to this is that you will use the tag, and I won't.