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If anyone wants to read more on this, Gerry Shih wrote a series of articles in Dec of last year on the presence of these camps and the backlash that sends some Uyghurs into extremist groups that commit acts of terrorism or seek asylum in ISIS-held territory.

Chinese mass-indoctrination camps evoke Cultural Revolution

China’s Uighurs grapple with pull of extremism

In western China, thought police instill fear

    The detainees had to criticize and be criticized by their peers. One by one, they would also stand up before 60 classmates to present self-criticisms of their religious history.
Very Cultural Revolution

    A Turkey-based TV station run by Xinjiang exiles said almost 900,000 were detained, citing leaked government documents.
900,000 people in "re-education camps"

Me: "Huh, this is an interesting topic that I have strong feelings about and some amount of experience. I have yet to really read a reasonable and diligent take on besides criticism of Charles Murray-esque work. I'm far-left leaning but in no way a science denier so maybe I can get through this and give it some more thought"

    [liberals believe] All differences between men and women are a function of this social effect; as are all differences between the races.

A bit brusque, and the author is probably conservative but whatever.

    Rightists believe that human nature is utterly unchanging; conservatives tend to see the world as less plastic than liberals, and attempts to remake it wholesale dangerous and often counterproductive.

The fuck.

    I want to note first that I know many of the figures involved in this heated debate — most recently, Charles Murray, Sam Harris, and Ezra Klein — and respect each of them a great deal.


by Andrew Sullivan


I always assumed it would be something like earned income tax credit, or supplanting existing welfare models. I don't think your arithmetic accounts for that, and assumes that every working class person would receive a UBI payment, but maybe I'm reading it incorrectly.

Like, why would I, for instance, with my full time job and decent income, get a basic income on top of that? The answer to your question, for me, has always been: I would get taxed and it would go to those out-of-work or under the poverty line, and I would be able to take advantage of that if I were in either of those two categories.

Why isn't what they termed a militia back then what the police are now? I know that technically they did exist back then, in a very different scope, but does the modern day incarnation fulfill the role they were imagined to have?

Like, I don't really understand what the nat'l guard does, or the intricacies of on-the-ground state authority, so maybe therein lies a misunderstanding.

    We'll make you a parallel, privately-organized organization that, if you meet certain requirements, gets certain law enforcement perks like range times, discounted ammo, training, reserved frequencies for coordination, and an org chart that law enforcement or the military can interact with?

I mean, this seems like a reasonable solution on paper, but I grew up with some of the people that would swoon over this opportunity, and those are the last people I would want reacting in a stressful situation armed to the teeth. I can only imagine an incompetent, y'all quaeda, blackwater-esque group that has police connections? I would hope it just gets their war boner off but some fuckers are gonna take it too far. Anyone allied with the OPD in that manner would be immediately highly suspicious to me.

I mean, Katrina was bad enough, and already had issues with overuse of violence, but then to have a bunch of dudes bristling with mall ninja shit, thinking they are the authority roaming around?

Also, this shit scares the hell out of me. I don't think that this particular event is anything other than situational. but giving it a veneer of legitimacy is troubling.

I am most assuredly not, nor do I support this for anyone.

Me neither, I've never had a use and now it's all suddenly very relevant.

I've head good things about MMM, forgot to make sure and check him out again, thanks!

Hey Ref, thanks for the re-direct.

I definitely have an emergency fund now :)

I've perused around that subreddit article, the situations they cite don't quite fit for me, but the linked info and boggleheads article was helpful for sure, and the biggest takeaway is that I still need to take my time and do some reading.

Like, at this point I don't totally understand what an EFT is so I need to do my own research, but that seems to be one of the avenues that keeps being brought up, so your recommendation is helping my push in that direction.

I totally understand, by better questions I mean I need to figure out like, "what can I do?" and also communicate my goals better (though clearly you can already tell I'm a bit lacking that department :) ). I'm glad the conversation here has gone in multiple directions cause what I want to do is def influenced by what I can do and people are bringing up a few things that I hadn't considered.

I see what you're saying about those seeming contradictory, I simply meant even if I choose to let it sit somewhere so I don't have to actively do anything, what is the best way for me to do that? Is an index fund the right way? What is a money market? Please don't worry about answering those, I'm just trying to wrap my head around the gaps in my understanding. Once I feel like I have a more solid footing, I will definitely be coming back to query the hive :)

Also, thanks for the response, I really do appreciate it!

Much appreciated.

Everyone has been giving me the answer I needed to the question that was between the lines, which is pretty much "chill out, leave it alone until you feel confident about a decision."

I know my post is a little hot mess, I def wasn't expecting a concrete like "here's what you should do," but you're right that I wasn't even concise about what my end game is supposed to be. I appreciate you letting me know, I need to ask better questions.

It's a bigger amount than "a bit" and I don't have any debt. I work with some very wealthy people so my context has gotten a bit skewed in the last few years.

I'm definitely glad you point to the article you did, I have already read it, but there were gaps in my understanding. So every time I read something built upon that one, I still feel like I'm playing catch-up and I don't like missing details. Which makes me thorough, but also a bit obsessive until I feel like I grasp it well.

Hey yellow, thanks for the advice.

For context, I am most certainly at the risk aversion step, I should have been a bit more descriptive. The easiest part of reading about personal finance was the first two steps you outlined, which I was able to fulfill. I got inundated when it just went a little bit beyond that, but your comments in that regard are still very helpful.

    You very well could lose everything you give them. Just accept that if you're going uber risky. Think of the money as gone and everything else is a happy surprise.

I am not a gambling man, this is terrifying to me.

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