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my boy fantano
other than him and redlettermedia i don't use youtube anymore
except for music
i fell in love with my best and only friend (who was in a relationship already) and got obsessed with her and started stalking her / being overly controlling
that's how i figured out i was bipolar, because i was obsessing with her when i was manic
so it's a shame, i suppose.
again, if you read
- Grave psychological disturbances, anguish, or grave fear of hardship, suffering, or torture can diminish the responsibility of the one committing suicide.
2283 We should not despair of the eternal salvation of persons who have taken their own lives. By ways known to him alone, God can provide the opportunity for salutary repentance. The Church prays for persons who have taken their own lives.
that's literally the position of the catholic church on the issue
the point of "god is the ultimate judge" isn't that you can just do anything you want in life willy-nilly without needing to care about moral choices - the point is that it's not the place of people to say "this person is going to hell" or "this person is going to heaven" because it's taking away the authority of god to decide that. it's possible to both condemn suicide and allow for suicidal people to be forgiven.
i realize that you've had terrible experiences with christianity, and i understand why you'd want to reject all of it, but christians aren't necessarily unthinking drones or comic book villains
and you can call me an apologist if you want but i'd prefer it if you didn't - i'm not claiming this stuff is true, just that this is the position of the church on it
i know you dismissed it earlier, but if you look at the Catechism (2280-2283) they give some specifying details about suicide - it's not a mortal sin if your mind is clouded, which is the biggest loophole ever and totally an intentional one, and regardless of what happens, it's up to god to judge whether people deserve it anyway
the point of prohibiting suicide is to stop people from killing themselves to go to heaven quicker - that's why it springs up a long time after the bible, because you had martyrs galore back in the day killing themselves left and right, and modern christian views on suicide stems from works condemning those people - you need to do this (as a religion) to not be a death cult
This is interesting
natives always get dicked out of having "religion" in favor of some vague kind of "spirituality" which is one of those words people use to to either:
1. minimize their own beliefs (i'm not religious, i'm just spiritual [because "religious doesn't sound good nowaways])
2. minimize the beliefs of other cultures (look how cute these natives are with their nature and their interconnectedness - if only we, nasty whitey, could be as pure as these people we're killing [oh well])
same thing with chinese and japanese beliefs, but they call those "philosophies" or "folk traditions," which is hardly better
only indo-europeans and semites are allowed to use the word religion
pity that more revivalist movements don't abandon some of the bad chaff
if only we could all have a canadian daddy that helps us with our insecurities