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efs5rdgtyuev  ·  2246 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: PSA: Welcome to Hubski, Redditors.

Not trying to be a wet towel... but.. I really don't get this place. I actually signed up last year, but nothing I posted ever showed up and no one ever responded to any of my questions.

Giving this a second chance... I don't remember what screen name I used, but that's the only way to recover an account, despite an email address being required.

Also.. taking a look around for the second time... .. uh... you guys seem kinda stuck up. The number of times I've seen reference to "freeze peaches" kinda makes me feel a little gross seeing as I've only ever seen that from SRSers.

The voat crowd might be a little less sophisticated (and have some issues with spelling) and little less "liberal", but they seem more welcoming... which is ironic considering how social-justicey this place seems. (then again... most SJWs are all about exclusion, as long as it's on their terms)

Feel free to mock me and call me names... you don't have to worry about me sticking around.

Quatrarius  ·  2246 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  

A significant percentage of people here identify as feminists or, ynno, are female. Or Black, or LGBT, or whatever. Hubski is a place generally free from Men's rights activists or Gamergaters or Stormfront brigades or much of the rest. It's a popular opinion here that organizations devoted to being "anti-SJW" end up as vectors of hate. Isn't it funny how you're using "social justice" as an insult, a term that represents equality between genders, sexualities, and races?

Free speech is the right to say what you want, not the right to be free from criticism. More to the point, it's the right to say what you want and not being censored by the government, not private individuals or websites. Calling "free speech!" as a defence is saying that the good thing about your argument is that it's technically not illegal to express. That argument is mocked because it doesn't make sense.

All that doesn't mean you can't stay. But you shouldn't expect a MRA circlejerk, and you shouldn't expect to be able to pass without a good argument.

zeroFail  ·  2245 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Social justice does not necessarily represent equality, but justice for those oppressed. It offers advantageous positions to those deemed underprivileged compared to those deemed privileged. Of course, who is privileged and who isn't is left up to the interpretation of the individual judging. To some, this might seem to be promoting equality, but to others, it might seem to be promoting a certain form of sycophancy to one's self, or a censoring of the real world in the search of a "safe space". I won't pretend to support contemporary social justice movements and activities, but I also won't blindly demonize its intended effects.

That being said, to act as though MRA or GGers are "vectors of hate" is as terrible as lumping in every feminist that hates men with the feminists that honestly just want gender equality. I might not be a mens rights activist, nor be a Gamergate supporter, but I'm not going to blindly distrust and hate these movements simply because I've heard that they're hate spewers.

I know there's more behind Gamergate than harassment of women (though I find the whole movement has since deteriorated into a self-righteous parody of itself), and I also know that, if you support equality, then Mens Rights Activisim deserves a place in this world to exist, regardless of whether or not you believe Feminism is already working to achieve the same goals as said movement. There will be radicals on every side, but there's no use putting up blinders simply because of them.

Quatrarius  ·  2245 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Trust me, I distrust and hate those movements with vision.

Reason nm1: Constant shitposting on any/all image boards I dare to browse.

Reason nm2: The overlap of "anti-misandry" with geniune misogyny.

Reason nm3: The hijacking of all "female/minority" problems that suddenly become white college-age male problems.

I shim-sham this issue well enough to see that, while I can agree with some issues with MRAs, it's mixed in with such hideous bullshit that I can do nothing but openly hate the movement and others like it. Note a crucial part of the previous sentence: I agree with MRAs on some issues. I'm perfectly happy with equality. What I'm not happy with is how it's blended in with TRP attempted women-manipulating and the demonization of feminism and feminists. Look at the comment I responded to earlier - the presence of feminism caused the poster to call out about "SJW Hubski". Could you please point out to me how that was deserved?

So yeah, vectors of hate. I'm going to give the members of the respective movements the kindness rarely given the other way and assume that there are some people in them that aren't bad people. That doesn't excuse the rest. It's not a silent majority, it's a silent minority.

zeroFail  ·  2245 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I can understand your criticisms, and it's why I actually enjoy this community that I just recently discovered. That being said, I'm sort of afraid that by pushing away from Reddit and its anti-SJW tendency, more people on Hubski seem to hold a more polarizing view against them.

Where Voat exists now to hold the people vehemently pro-GG and anti-SJW, it seems that Hubski pulls the crowd on the other side of the debate, albeit certainly more well-spoken and upright in their composure. I'm just wary of a community that seems one-sided, which is unfortunate knowing that Hubski seems to be the most moderate community I've honestly found out there, so far.

Kafke  ·  2245 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Unless they are extremists, or are looking for an anti-SJW circlejerk/dominated site, they should be fine. I personally lean on that side of things (not because I'm against equality, but because the people are damn obnoxious and generally try to make everything into those types of issues), and I have really no issues with hubski. Not really my kind of people here, but you guys have interesting things to say a lot of the time.

Just know what you're getting yourself into. Differing opinions can coexist.

Quatrarius  ·  2245 days ago  ·  link  ·  

There's a couple people you can hook up with for different opinions. Look around some more. It's not so bad.

am_Unition  ·  2245 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I've been there before -

The survey that generated the data inspiring my post was of a different nature than your supposed SJW correlations, but the question is always valid.

I hope you find the prior discussion interesting.

Welcome. :)

cgod  ·  2246 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I've been here for years and have no idea what "freeze peaches" is. What you follow and who you block will have a big influence on what kind of content you encounter.

mike  ·  2246 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I had to look it up myself. No good just googling "freeze peaches", you find a lot of pages on how to actually freeze peaches. It's a good homophone though: free-zpeaches. It's some kind of reddit thing... I've only been to reddit like 3 times so I don't know that bit of culture.

My dad used to test speech recognition software by saying "It's hard to wreck a nice beach." A pretty cool homophone. Sorry -- tangent. I'm prone to those.

Xi  ·  2245 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm new from Reddit (switched now because I learned about it and liked it better, not because I'm part of the radical groups), and I've never heard of the 'free peaches' thing before. I'm pretty sure it's generally restricted to the more unwelcoming subreddits that are dedicated to shaming and hating specific groups.

ugh  ·  2245 days ago  ·  link  ·  

that sounds kind of like reddit

mknod  ·  2246 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Not trying to be a wet towel... but.. I really don't get this place. I actually signed up last year, but nothing I posted ever showed up and no one ever responded to any of my questions.

For one thing, nobody has a responsibility to respond to your questions. When you say that nothing you posted ever showed up (I am assuming you mean in global), it was perhaps because it was not deemed by anyone as worthy of discussion.

Here is a tip for redditors, if you want to share content on hubski, you can't always just put a link. You will have to make an effort and give your opinions or views on the subject matter, or give a history of it.

    Also.. taking a look around for the second time... .. uh... you guys seem kinda stuck up. The number of times I've seen reference to "freeze peaches" kinda makes me feel a little gross seeing as I've only ever seen that from SRSers.

Well for another thing, yeah sometimes we are kind of stuck up. We can all be kind of stuck up sometimes. Being people means that we are going to be stuck up, or judgy, or mean, or sad, or lonely, there are actual people on the other side of the computer screen. Personally, I try not to put on an internet persona. I try to discuss things as if the person were sitting next to me, so I might come off as mean or as dismissive. Sometimes the intent of the message is more important than the message itself.

    Feel free to mock me and call me names... you don't have to worry about me sticking around.

See this is what is really bugging me about your post. You are trying to gain sympathy by putting yourself in a position where we are meant to pity you. It's just really manipulative and feels like a snake oil feeling. If I felt that this post wasn't just an excuse for you to try and gain sympathy or attempt to goad people into defending themselves, and instead was an honest expression of how you feel on the site, I might want to share it EVEN if I disagreed.

ButterflyEffect  ·  2246 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Woah, hey! Haven't seen you round in a while. Hope all has been well.

mknod  ·  2245 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Oh hey. Things are going. I have no excuse for being so sparse. I just am. Right now I'm at an art gallery in downtown Detroit feeling very out of place and uncomfortable, it's pretty great.

Kafke  ·  2245 days ago  ·  link  ·  

As someone who's pretty "anti-sjw", it's really not that bad here. Hubski looks a bit unwelcoming when you first join up, because it's user focused, rather than group focused. Think Twitter (people follow each other) rather than Reddit (people follow subreddits).

I think right now the big problem with hubski is the lack of users. Which means that most of the people who stick around like the existing content, which was pushed by people who liked the existing content when they came, which ultimately ends up meaning that the people who made the site (mk and such) have their views/thoughts as sort of the center attraction.

But really, you can post whatever you like, and choose to follow/ignore whoever you like.

It's worth sticking around if you like the "feel" of the website, as the users will only become more diverse as time goes on.

MilitantNegro  ·  2246 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think what you're seeing is other from Reddit bringing little bits of Reddit over with them. I haven't seen anything like that in the almost 1 year I've been here.

What you shouldn't do, in light of your complaint no one engaged you in conversation about the things you wanted to talk about, is rub people up the wrong way, which will only get people to mute or hide you and then, well no one will respond because no one will see your content or discussion. You're effectively shadowbanning yourself, to use Reddit terms you'll be more familiar with.


Outset  ·  2245 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Hubski is like a mix between Reddit and Twitter. Instead of default subreddits, you get the option to follow tags. For example, #gaming is the gaming tag, and #reddit is the reddit tag. To link a tag in a post, simply surround a word with hashes (#).

When creating a post, you can assign it to up to two tags at a time and the community can choose to assign a third tag to the post; although those were the rules when I first signed up and this may have changed since.

Unlike Reddit though, there is no moderation on tags unlike there is with subreddits, no such thing as downvoting (so no brigading here), and the experience is far more tailored to the user.

Two rules which are shared with Reddit and Hubski are no doxxing and no sexualised content of minors, so don't expect to see jailbait here...

user-inactivated  ·  2245 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I would say, based off my 7 hours of time here that hubski is the layout of reddit, the tags of twitter, and a strong text discussion similar to medium.

tacocat  ·  2245 days ago  ·  link  ·  

And the body of a regal stallion

user-inactivated  ·  2245 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The stallion who will mount the internet.

tacocat  ·  2245 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'd like most of the internet to go mount something far away from me at this point