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nowaypablo  ·  3575 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Hubski, how do you feel about drugs?

It feels like this has been a surprisingly taboo topic on Hubski, though I get why some people would feel uncomfortable saying that they do/have done more than might be expected of them. Others may be proactively avoiding them for personal reasons.

For me though, I give drugs a 9/10, minus 1 because I shouldn't be doing them till my brain is done developing, and that doesn't make it any less fun. Disappointed thumbs down to molly though, felt pretty unnecessary to me. Acid was ohmygod incredible, straightened me right out for sure.

edit: I do not have an interest in cocaine, meth, heroin, etc. and will not try them. Psychedelics are my cup of tea.

I'd also like to challenge Hubski's hesitation on this subject.. I personally don't see a reason to be hiding any bad side of myself to you guys.

Edit: Oh and fuck alcohol.





user-inactivated  ·  3575 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I've learned more about drugs on Hubski than I have in my own college.

All I've learned about it here is that Black guys (there are dozens of us! Dozens!) buy low and sell REALLY high and it works out. Got a PM from a Black Boulder Redditor, and I quote: "Straight up paid half my tuition, bruh."

Rich college kids will pay anything for the ganja.

I wouldn't even know where to get anything. I enjoy simulating a conversation with a drug dealer, though.

"Yes, hello fellow smoker! I'd like three marijuanees, please. No more than that, though. I heard someone had 2 marijuanees, and he died."

"Who the hell are you?"

"Just a fellow inhaler of the puff puff, like you! So, do you take credit?"

"Get away from me, man."

"Alright, I'll just text you my address, you can just mail it!"

A dispensary opened down the street from our Old Chicago... Shit is surreal.

Slightly related, I have a playlist called "Songs About Weed Even Though I've Never Smoked in My LIFE" and it's clocking in at 2 1/4 hours at this point.

user-inactivated  ·  3574 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Rich college kids will pay anything for the ganja.

I once sold someone a baggie of catnip for $100. He was sure I was a dealer, because all guys with long hair are dealers, and couldn't be convinced otherwise. I sold him the catnip so he would stop pleading with me to stop holding out on him.

_refugee_  ·  3574 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Damn you are so cold. Once I was sold brick weed for headies price, never went back again. Stone cold. I ain't smokin' no mids, I aint smokin no bricks.

Nowadays I wouldn't even know where one could get mids, which is interesting. Terrible for smoking but great for cooking.

b_b  ·  3574 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I hope Cypress Hill's "Hits from the Bong" is on the list. I'm not a prolific consumer of hip hop like yourself, but I'll always love that tune. It has the amazing bonus of sampling "Son of a Preacher Man".

user-inactivated  ·  3574 days ago  ·  link  ·  

you know it.

_refugee_  ·  3574 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    . I personally don't see a reason to be hiding any bad side of myself to you guys.

Oh, honey. You need more bad sides. ;)

Just kidding, really. I try and be open and up front with Hubski a lot but it's a far cry from "everything" and I am sure it will stay that way. There are some things I don't want sympathy for, and some things I don't see a point in bringing up. I've had lots of shitty life experiences and I'm not keen to get in arguments with people about, say, whether they actually are exampkes of systemic issues, or "if I had just handled that better," or so on.

Plus, if it so happens that once in a while I'm capable of consuming at least half a month's supply of prescription medication in 2-3 days, like, that's my own bidnis.

elizabeth  ·  3575 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You tried acid? Last time we had a drug related thread and I seem to remember you saying you'd like to try it someday. Recent experience ;) ?

I also kinda disagree that drugs are a taboo topic on here. I feel like we've had many discussions with people being very open about what they tried.

Next time a friend offers me some drugs, I'm gonna go for it. I kinda broke through this stupid barrier I had in my head about "hard drugs". I was mainly like BrainBurner, just terrified about the effect a drug would have on me and the whole loss of control but I got over that not long ago. I'm not gonna seek out some drugs but next time somebody offers, the answer is yes.

I honestly wish I passed that point before this summer. I had extremely knowledgeable people offer me some crazy cool drugs and I said no. I was not ready at the time but now kinda wish I was. Time to go back traveling :P

nowaypablo  ·  3575 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Please make sure you're in an environment, in a state of mind, and with company that are all as positive as can be!

Smoking weed with your closest mates to the strumming of a guitar is a very different experience from smoking weed at a party to Drake. By making sure you're in a good situation beforehand, you will never have any anxiety or a need to worry while you're actually on it, and it really makes a difference. That said, it's not for everyone and every drug affects every person differently.

Acid was last week for me during holiday break. I did it alone in the morning and then after my first and second major peak I went outside to some refreshing winter air and met some friends who kept me company. We shared lots of hysterical laughter at my epic state of being. I did have frightening intervals of time that I learned were the "bad trip" bits but they weren't so bad in fact, and I enjoyed the fact that I experienced what they were. I'm really so happy that I tried LSD and I have no regrets. Slept like a baby that night as well.

If you're ever back around NYC I'd be more than happy to treat you to some red velvet cupcakes my friend bakes with weed in them! :D It's good stuff.

elizabeth  ·  3575 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yeah I learned the thing about good company in High School when smoking weed. I was hanging out with the older kids and I alway felt judged. I guess it was the whole high school drug experience that's all about being cool and not about the experience itself. Then these people went on to harder stuff and since I already didn't feel 100% smoking weed with them, I just slowly backed away from that crowd. I'm glad I did because I now realize I was a bit too young for that shit (we have a strange system, I graduated high school at 15) .

The thing is, I was in that super positive and supportive environment this summer twice! I don't necessarily regret not going the drugs that were offered to me because we still smoked lots of pot and it was fun, but I just wish I could teleport back there for a weekend. They were really trusworthy people i felt I could rely on like 30 mins after met them. A guy with this book on his coffee table and 3 psychoactive plant in his room (salvia and some other stuff) surely knows how to have a smooth trip. He said he initiated a bunch of people.

I don't think I'll be back to NYC until this summer that's for sure but going on a little trip to Burlington for a Gogol Bordello concert in two months. Anybody from Burlington on here?

user-inactivated  ·  3575 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Could I ask for more specifics? And yeah, I don't see much discussion of substances on Hubski. I'm not gonna speculate as to why, though.

elizabeth  ·  3575 days ago  ·  link  ·  

https://hubski.com/tag?id=psychedelics

https://hubski.com/tag?id=drugs

And many many more. Sometimes the topic of drugs come up on unrelated threads so they are a bit harder to track down but I feel like people here are surprisingly open about drugs and a great deal of people are knowledgable about it all.

Ayahuasca has been discussed lots but that's cause it's pretty special drug. My general impression is that people here are more drawn to psychedelics (or maybe it's just more acceptable to say you like shrooms than to say you've been digging methamphetamines lately? )

user-inactivated  ·  3575 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Psychedelics seem to be a very approachable "genre" of drugs, to be sure. Talking about your heroin addiction doesn't come up much in polite conversation.

_refugee_  ·  3575 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It's possible to trace back handles to RL identities for a fair number of active Hubski commenters, myself included.

I've done a fair selection of drugs but mostly don't find them that worthwhile, although generally somewhat fun. Hard not to feel the hard drugs/hallucinogens are a waste of time though. I consider weed harmless. I consider certain prescription drugs incredibly harmful. I've done too much of certain drugs and had issues living a successful life afterwards for a while. But you know, sometimes in college we adapt unhealthy coping systems. Sometimes I still have to work at that. Sometimes I still overindulge/use drugs to detach from reality into a space of general peace and calm. I don't think it's a good thing, but I'm by all indications extremely functional, so besides killing myself early by wearing out my heart or blood pressure or whatever, I don't consider it the most pressing or unhealthy thing in my life to correct right now.

What is really that interesting about drugs to talk about? Yeah, I've done them, or no, I haven't. They were great or no they weren't. Then trade stories about hallucinations you saw, which frankly, mostly not interesting. Also, why brag about drug use. It's not a brag-worthy topic. I'm not going to think anyone is cool for overindulging in Molly or whatever over the weekend. I've taken a LOT of prescription ADHD medicine at once back in college, the fact that I was able to swallow a bunch of pills and not kill myself isn't that impressive or cool.

mknod  ·  3575 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think the interesting thing about drugs is not the event that takes place, but rather how drugs fit into our lives.

I mean I find the fact that cats love catnip and that big horned sheep eat lichen almost just as interesting. Part of it is the fact that these chemicals offer something personal to everyone for good or for bad.

But if I have to hear about the art student who did too much acid and thought he was a bird for the rest of his life one more time I'll pop a vein.

user-inactivated  ·  3575 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I disagree with your assumption that talking about drugs is dull or repetitive. You could use that argument to remove half the things that get talked about here. I disagree that anyone here is bragging about drug use, either.

_refugee_  ·  3575 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It's lucky that we are allowed to have different opinions here - not assumptions.

user-inactivated  ·  3575 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Was there a point to the italics?

_refugee_  ·  3575 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Actually, I believe there was a slight curve. Perhaps a slant.

user-inactivated  ·  3575 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm sorry if I was rude. I didn't mean to be. I wasn't doubting the validity of your opinion, just that I disagreed with it.

nowaypablo  ·  3575 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Bout what exactly? I do have a hilariously embarrassing video I have to render onto YouTube filmed immediately after my first peak on LSD. I'm only comfortable sharing it because I've just burned my last bowl until March as per my new years resolution– the strain was "galactic clitoris" by the way, which turned out to be spot-on.

user-inactivated  ·  3575 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You mention pot and molly specifically. Do you use anything else, How do drugs affect you, etc. What's this video about?

nowaypablo  ·  3575 days ago  ·  link  ·  

For about a year I smoked weed with a deliberate month between each sesh. Only after dangerously unhealthy and crippling stress from school–coupled with feelings of anxiety about school that I hadn't gotten before– within the last month I've smoked around once a week. Never more than three times a week. Many of my friends are daily users and many of them are zombies at this point– that's their irresponsibilty. Others, from the same group of friends, are incredibly motivated and interesting people who use weed as an effective tool, instead of as a pacifier from life or an excuse to act stupidly.

I know it can go wrong, and I know it can hurt me, but I'm ignorantly ignoring those consequences for incredible experiences that I would not have had ever in my life otherwise. To me, it's worth it, and I feel that I am responsible when I'm actually using it. But:

"Drugs are so good, they'll ruin your life."

Anyway, molly was fun but the comedown was crap, and I felt if I were to take it again in the near future I might develop some sort of addiction. It was a scary thought that I took as a fair warning to stay away. It was at a rave, coupled with my first-ever pot brownie. I felt that I was the most confident radiant exploding ball of energy in the room, confident especially with girls, but the whole time I knew it wasn't the real me and it was temporary, and it just wasn't worth it.

I didn't have a plan for the video and just filmed it to be able to play back to myself when I was sober, in case I didn't remember anything. It is essentially just me, desperately trying to stay on topic and explain what I just experienced.

mknod  ·  3575 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Anyway, molly was fun but the comedown was crap, and I felt if I were to take it again in the near future I might develop some sort of addiction. It was a scary thought that I took as a fair warning to stay away. It was at a rave, coupled with my first-ever pot brownie. I felt that I was the most confident radiant exploding ball of energy in the room, confident especially with girls, but the whole time I knew it wasn't the real me and it was temporary, and it just wasn't worth it.

I just heard Amy Pohler talking about taking ecstasy (which I gather is a form of molly or the other way around). She also talks about the comedown. Do you feel like the experience of molly helped you understand what it feels like to be confident better?

Also, you are still in high school right? I am of the opinion that people should just wait until they are out of college to do this stuff. It just seems reasonable I guess?

_refugee_  ·  3575 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Ha. I think college is the best time to do those things. Drugs are everywhere and cheap. Consequences are lower than in real life where you can lose a job or not be offered one due to a failed piss test. It's more of the norm of the culture there as opposed to after college where it's frowned upon.

I mean, if you want to be serious about academics, then only do drugs over summer vacation and at music festivals or whatnot. But I'll tell ya, ain't nobody can find drugs like somebody in college (who's not on a dry campus).

mknod  ·  3575 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Actually I agree with this.

nowaypablo  ·  3575 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    People should just wait until they are out of college to do this stuff. It just seems reasonable I guess?

Yes you're absolutely right. That's also easier to say when you're not in high school. Oh well.

edit: oops! I thought you meant in college. I think college is the best time, and that people should ideally wait after high school at the least.

    Do you feel like the experience of molly helped you understand what it feels like to be confident better?

I think it helped me experience what is possible at extreme levels of confidence. but it didn't make me more confident by any means in the long run. I didn't feel like I was in control during my experience, in the same way that I feel when drunk. I'm just kinda spinning around while enjoying the ride, but not in the front seat experiencing things and learning. More of a "BLAM HERE'S A THING! ok hope you enjoyed that now here's sinking depression for 6 hours...."

user-inactivated  ·  3575 days ago  ·  link  ·  

This is exactly what I'm looking for. Thank you.