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goobster  ·  617 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post:

    "I'ma take my nail gun to shoot up the FBI because bulletproof glass isn't nailproof, oops, yes it is, let me post on social media and then kill myself."

This kind of loopy thinking always makes me suspicious that there are government agents behind it, who have radicalized some simp, and gotten them to take action they (probably) would never have chosen themselves.

Who SERIOUSLY thinks bulletproof glass can be defeated by a nailgun? That's just dumb as shit, and seems exactly like the kind of dumb ideas FBI agents feed their sources to make the sources do something patently illegal.

I do wonder how much of the FBI is dedicated to setting up dopes and then toppling them ... and laughing when the poor putz is laying on the ground full of holes...





am_Unition  ·  617 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That's literally the most enduring talking point and legal-defense-but-not-really made by the J6 rioters and Trump.

FBI incitement definitely happens, but an increasing number of Trumpists are farrrrrrr past needing any nudges from law enforcement to go full-on kamikaze. And the FBI probably isn't trying to incite many people to attack... the FBI.

If only 0.01% of all Trump 2020 voters are willing to commit violence to aid Emperor Godking (I think the true percentage is prolly quite a bit higher), that's 7,000 terrorists. Granted, they're much too stupid to organize well, on their own, but that's what T̶w̶i̶t̶t̶e̶r̶ TRUTH Social is for.

kleinbl00  ·  617 days ago  ·  link  ·  

We have zero confusion about "willing to commit violence." You continue to assume "able to commit USEFUL violence" is a given.

We have seen the sum total of Team Trump's organizational prowess. They had all three branches of government, they had social media, they had support from Russia, they had tear gas on the streets, they had disavowed border patrol squads in rented vans cruising Portland to arrest people, they had an entire political party announcing their platform was "whatever Trump says." All that? some shit smeared on the walls, a bunch of congresscritters (justifiably) cowering in their offices and the whole of government waiting for them to get bored and go home.

What's the pathway to power from here? They will never again get as far as January 6th, and January 6th was miles and miles and miles away from a successful coup.

We got dumb shits walking into Walmart with three ARs because they hate Mexicans. I'm not about to say the MAGAts lack a limitless capacity for violence. But it doesn't do anything. Imagine how much more effective two idiots with nailguns would have been? Holy shit - what if there were three of them! But the Gretchen Whitmer conspiracy, which may or may not have been goaded on by the FBI, didn't even make it to a credible threat against the governor of Wisconsin.

"If anyone wants to do it, no amount of protection is enough. All a man needs is a willingness to trade his life for mine."

- John F. Kennedy

Things have gotten a bit more Hard Mode since Lee Harvey Oswald. Still, "lone crazy" is the way to go: "lone crazy" got John Kennedy, "lone crazy" got Bobby Kennedy, "lone crazy" almost got Reagan, "a bunch of people talking" gets you "maybe they were gonna try and knock off John Bolton eventually."

The fucking Proud Boys invited a documentary crew along

And I mean, they were hardly the first. I'll go ahead and posit a maxim: the more attention your organization attracts, the less you will accomplish in the future.

So. All the right needs is a charismatic, secretive, competent and dedicated organization capable of thwarting a forewarned Deep State whose sole purpose is to restore Donald Trump to power for some reason.

What are the odds of that, do you think?

b_b  ·  617 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I once heard that 100% of domestic Islamic terrorism “busts” after 9/11 fell into that category. Supposedly the plot against Whitmer was a fbi fuckup too. This one doesn’t fit the bill for the simple reason that it happened really fast.

kleinbl00  ·  617 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The pattern is "hey buddy wanna do a crime?" followed by "Hey I happen to have all the resources you might possibly want in order to do a crime" accompanied by "might I suggest a target for this crime." This pattern usually starts with "those brown dudes over there are suspect". The classic example is the Liberty City Seven.

If it's the FBI, though, the criming is clear-cut: "Hey, Randy - here's a shotgun, can you saw it off in violation of the NFA for me real quick? I'll give you $40." That's where the Liberty City Seven fell apart: "Hey, my name is Al Kayda and I would like to pay you fifty grand to blow up the Sears Tower. Also here's a bunch of guns and explosives." "Nice to meet you, Al, we're good on explosives and guns but we'd very much like your $50k."

If the FBI is behind it, they don't fuck around with unclear shit. What would be the point? "Nail guns go through bulletproof glass, therefore intent will be really simple to establish in a court of law."

kleinbl00  ·  617 days ago  ·  link  ·  

LOL I maintain that anyone who doubts the authenticity of stupid internet commenters need only sell one (1) object on Craigslist.

The reasons airports have smelled like feet since 2002.

I was at the supermall some years back. Every kiosk had an official warning about counterfeit currency - someone was cutting the 20s off $20 bills and gluing them onto $1s. This had previously made the news as "the absolute worst counterfeiting attempt in the history of money" or some shit so I asked the first cashier I saw with one if it was a joke.

"We don't joke about money," she said. Six cashiers after that said something similar.

Randy Weaver was radicalized when an FBI agent asked him to cut the barrel off a shotgun. Weaver said, "Sure, I can do that." "Even though it's illegal," the undercover agent said. "Who cares if it's illegal," Weaver said, and started cutting with a hacksaw. The agent watched, waited, and said "and now I have to arrest you."

    Who SERIOUSLY thinks bulletproof glass can be defeated by a nailgun?

The same people who think the election was stolen? That the COVID vaccine has microchips in it? That the earth is flat? That the sky is full of chemtrails? That 5G is mind control rays? That the Bilderberg Group runs the world? That Q is JFK Jr?

That was rhetorical, right?