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veen  ·  3337 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: 3 Questions with @elizabeth (now with video)

Please do, we need your wisdom. :)





thenewgreen  ·  3337 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I was happy to have been lumped in to the "wise" category. But then I realized that I was also in the old category. Damn! That stung a bit.

I have probably listened to this audio 20 times. I can't imagine a better reply to the second question. It really took me by surprise. Along with mk I came up with the questions and I couldn't wait to hear what elizabeth answered. Opening the .wav file she sent was like opening a present. I had some pretty high hopes and she certainly surpassed them.

Where will she want to be for that conversation? London, Tokyo, Sidney? Bangkok? Nope... cgod's coffee shop. -I LOVE it! That brought such an enormous smile to my face. Then, her answer about who to meet was amazing too. I couldn't agree more, it's an impossible question. I also agree with the sort of, categories that she came up with. There really are a number of us on here at very different points in our lives. What's so awesome is that all of the points of life provide help and guidance to all the others. -That's such a unique thing about Hubski imo.

Well done elizabeth. You've set the bar high, but you've totally made me excited to keep doing these. Thanks

elizabeth  ·  3337 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Woahwoah I said older as in older than me !

I'm glad you all liked my little answers. I forgot soo many people when listing everyone I wanted to meet but then again you told me to keep it under 5 minutes :P

Feeling like a Hubskebrity right now

_refugee_  ·  3336 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think that your answer to that question, frankly, cannot be topped.

thenewgreen  ·  3337 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Per chance, did you notice the song I used for most of it? You introduced us to it.

elizabeth  ·  3337 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Awww that's so thoughtful of you! I noticed it was familiar tunes all along but never actually made the connection (audio and musicstuff is really not my strong point)

lil  ·  3337 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Thanks Veen. I'm not sure it's wisdom. I explained it all on IRC last night. It was something like this: the "reality" of the hubski community was made particularly poignant in Elizabeth's comments. She seemed to bring out our caring for each other as best we can in our disembodied way and seemed to be connecting in various ways, even though rarely face-to-face. I found that moving and amazing. Many people created this amazing thing. thenewgreen maybe can put it better.

lil  ·  3336 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I put it a little more clearly in an email to steve who thought perhaps that the weepiness was sad. I wrote

    Actually, weepiness is AWESOME. It gets in touch with something.

    All kinds of things make me weepy and I think there’s connecting threads – for example, at a ball game, when everyone gets up and sings O Canada… and I’m not crazy about nationalism … but there’s a togetherness that I find moving – sure it’s programming – so it deserves some questioning, but

    I also feel a little weepy when a fire truck is trying to get by and all the traffic pulls over. More programming – but good programming.

    So the Elizabeth conversation touched on some of that.

    What I’m talking about is this: I am moved by feelings of oneness with other humans (and creatures and phenomena of all sort). When that feeling of oneness is provoked by whatever art experience or event or conversation or music (which is another kind of conversation) or encounter with magic or science, it is good.

veen does that make sense?
Cumol  ·  3273 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The weepiness you describe, I think I can relate...

I have found some videos, usually of festival/concert crowds, that give me a similar feeling. The "togetherness" gives me a specific kind of goosebumps... on my cheeks.

There is a subreddit called /r/HappyCrowds that gathers videos of such moments and I think I am addicted.

Here are some of my favorites:

The first one is of 1000 italian Foo Fighters fans playing one of their famous songs as a way to convince the Foo Fighters to visit Italy :) The way the drummers are playing in synchrony :)

The second one is of a Haka flashmob. Haka is an ancient Maori war cry/dance.

The third is probably the one that comes closest to what you mentioned. A massive choir of multiple thousand singers performing a traditional latvian folk song.

There is more if that interests you :)

lil  ·  3271 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I get weepy listening to and watching the Wikipedia edits:

http://listen.hatnote.com/#fr,en

Cumol  ·  3271 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That is beautiful!

lil  ·  3273 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Hey Cumol, that's it exactly. It's not just a feeling of oneness with others - it's also something about the crazy generosity that goes into organizing a mass public show of FUN.

_refugee_  ·  3336 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Oh my goodness lil, so sometimes I've gone to the rodeo in the past. I know there are ethical and moral problems with the rodeo and I haven't gone in a long, long time, so, like, whatever your opinions are I do not currently support it, so please don't lambast me here.

But at the rodeo they do this thing where a girl rides out on a horse hoisting the flag and she rides around the stadium and everyone sings the National Anthem and by god, I am not a 'Murrica! sort of person in any way, at all, but I love that moment, and it touches me, and the spirit of that moment is one of the things I love about the rodeo. People seem very genuine there.

And this song made me cry the first time I saw it.

I have gotten emotionally happy weepy over all sorts of things. Insomniasexx's engagement!

veen  ·  3336 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That does make a lot of sense, lil. It's a very human thing to feel. For me it's a feeling of belonging- of acceptance, of genuine appreciation of your social context.