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OftenBen  ·  3554 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: What Kind of Man Joins the Men's Rights Movement?

If I'm being really honest, I'll admit that once upon a time, near my lowest of lows, I gave red pill philosophy some thought. Not the woman-hating part, because hate-sex isn't something I've ever done, and I don't plan on ever doing it. But the practical side of it? The part that says 'It is not the woman's fault you were rejected, it's yours.' The part that says if you want to succeed in the 'sexual marketplace' you need to have a product worth the price.

Now, I'm thankful for the relationship I have. I know that when the time comes for me to find someone new it will probably take a while. I know that I'll probably have to put in a lot of effort, and get very little back. I also know that no one is to blame for that.





user-inactivated  ·  3554 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It sucks because it's such an easy thing to fall into, if you're impressionable, young, and got rejected by girls a couple of times.

It's so tantalizing to be able to put all the onus on the girls that rejected you for "legitimate reasons" that get constructed and seem reasonable when you're in that vulnerable position. They don't like nice guys, they only go for ripped jerks, they don't like nerdy things like videogames! You don't have to put any of the blame on yourself, ever, and holy shit that probably feels good.

I shudder to think about how close I was to that particular sun, Icarus-style. But if you fly too close to it you're an asshole and your wings probably deserved to be burnt off anyways.

kleinbl00  ·  3553 days ago  ·  link  ·  

See, I've never been there.

Women have always been more interesting, funnier, easier to talk to, better dressed, kinder and definitely more aesthetically pleasing than men and any failures I've had in attracting the fair sex have always been seen by me as a personal failing. I mean, if I were a woman? I'd probably be a lesbian. I just dig everything about women so much more than men.

It has been my experience that misogyny and narcissism are positively correlated.

user-inactivated  ·  3553 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Dude, I came to the same realization yesterday. I have more girl than guy friends, most likely for those reasons.

Girls are awesome.

ButterflyEffect  ·  3553 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Hey same here. My best friends have been girls for the majority of my life. Totally agree with everything you and kb have said.

Edit: I was curious and ended up analyzing my texting habits and found that 8 of the 10 people I'm in the most frequent contact with / vice versa are female. Huh.

kleinbl00  ·  3553 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Girls are totally awesome.

The worst relationship I ever had lasted 4 1/2 years. I was out drinking with... well, not buds because he's a scumbag that I don't hang out with anymore but anyway, with "a fellow male" and I came to the realization that I could do a lot worse for "life goal" than "surround myself with as many cool women as possible." It took another couple weeks before I came to the parallel realization that I was well on my way towards that goal when I met the girlfriend... who proceeded to push every single other woman (including relatives) out of my life.

The relationship lasted another six weeks.

_refugee_  ·  3553 days ago  ·  link  ·  

THANKS GUYS :) I AGREE

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bioemerl  ·  3553 days ago  ·  link  ·  

But the practical side of it? The part that says 'It is not the woman's fault you were rejected, it's yours.' The part that says if you want to succeed in the 'sexual marketplace' you need to have a product worth the price.|

That's because that part is absolutely true.

Where it becomes false is the assumption that you have to act a certain, super specific way, in order to be appealing on that "marketplace". Along with the assumption that all women only want "assertive" men.

In reality, it's a group of socially awkward people learning that, guess what, if you improve the way you act, and learn to be confident in a social setting, you will be more successful in learning relationships!

Sadly, the fact that is true turns into a group of people who think all women are as described above.