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_refugee_  ·  4010 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: How I Learned to Stop Ordering 'Thai Spicy' | Serious Eats : New York

They have dry aged steak there omg I've wanted to try that for the longest time. Ugh but it looks like you can't choose how long the steak has been aged? I want to try the FUNKIEST. (Well like, a mid-range funky.)

Hey, aren't we doing a meetup in NYC in 2014? ;)





humanodon  ·  4010 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Most beef sold as steak is dry aged for at least three weeks, but the dry-aging room at Peter Luger is especially well-known. I have a friend from South Africa who told me to take a whole Scotch fillet (or what I'd call a rib-eye) and hang it in my fridge for a few weeks until the outside turns black, then to slice it and cook it for the best steak. I guess that's the basic dry-aging right there.

I didn't do it though, as I had a really small fridge, but I do wonder.

b_b  ·  4010 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I have a large fridge, and it's mostly for show (when I bought the place I live there was a spot built in for a certain size fridge, so that's what I bought). However, if you were to open it, you'd find various sorts of mustard, some sparkling water, beer and sake, and literally nothing else but a whole lot of emptiness.

Recently I went to a restaurant that served duck prosciutto, a dish I'd never heard of but that blew me away. It got me thinking about trying to age my own meats, since I have the space. I think it might be a really fun hobby. From what I've read, it doesn't seem that difficult. I might give it a whirl.

humanodon  ·  4010 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I've heard that duck prosciutto is supposed to be really great. I've also wondered about aging or curing my own meats, in particular, salamis. There are a whole lot of great European cured meats that are not allowed into the U.S. because of the FDA, so I think it would be a good way to make use of one's free time.

Do you have a good source for duck?

b_b  ·  4010 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I live close to a couple reputable butchers, so I'm assuming that they would be able to get whatever I requested. I'm not certain, though.

From what I've read, the key to transforming an ordinary fridge into a curing fridge is a humidity regulator and humidifier. Apparently, the humidity needs to be kept around 50%, give or take. I have no idea what the humidity of my refrigerator normally is. Also, I've read different things about nitrates and nitrites, some saying they're perfectly safe in the quantities that are needed for curing, while others say you can cure fine without them, so why risk it.

humanodon  ·  4010 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'd heard that humidity was key too. A good butcher is hard to find (near me anyway) but the one I do go to has some truly amazing stuff. For example, tomahawk rib steak. Here's a visual of a chef cooking one. Interested as I am in my health and the welfare of animals, I simply will not give up eating meat unless I absolutely have to.

b_b  ·  4010 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Holy hell that looks amazing. I've never even heard of a rib steak. I must have one. I'm going on a mission. Finishing a steak in the oven is interesting. What temperature do you set the oven to? And for how long to bring it to temp? I'm a rare steak eater. I see anything else as ruining an otherwise delicious meal.

humanodon  ·  4009 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm with you on the rare. In this article there is another slideshow where a different chef also cooks one. On one of the slides it says that it's finished in a 350F oven. I have yet to cook one myself, so if you do complete your mission, I really hope you'll snap a few pictures and do a little write up!

_refugee_  ·  4010 days ago  ·  link  ·  

From what I have read there is a big difference between wet-aged and dry-aged steak. Wet aging does not do anything for texture or flavor - but a lot of steak advertised as "aged" is wet-aged as opposed to dry-aged. Dry aging (ageing?) takes two commodities: devoted space and time. It will rack up the price of a steak.

I have read about dry-aging steak at home, and was daunted by the suggestions the articles I read made. Things like having a mini-fridge devoted just to dry aging - putting a fan in the fridge to ensure proper circulation of air - and so on. It seemed like a bigger investment than I was willing to put into it.

Perhaps your friend's suggestion is the down-and-dirty method. Maybe it is quite effective. I do know that you should start with a cut of steak that is bigger than what you'd like to end up eating, as you'll lose some meat to dessication, and that steak with bones is better than steak without (you'll lose less meat, I think).

I don't think the steak you get at chains like Texas Roadhouse or Outback or similar places is dry-aged. It's more of a high-end, Peter Luger's sort of thing.

humanodon  ·  4010 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I don't think the steak you get at chains like Texas Roadhouse or Outback or similar places is dry-aged.

I read that those places got in trouble for fabricating filet mignon. As in, they'd take lesser cuts of meat and use meat glue and molds to create filet mignon. So, yeah I think you're right that they don't serve dry-aged steak!

_refugee_  ·  4010 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Oh my god that's awful. Going to look into it. Maybe that's what my roommate last year meant when he was talking about places that would slap together different slices of meat using "meat glue" and sell you them under different labels.

I was quite confused because anything you buy at the supermarket, you can clearly see what cut it is and you'd be able to tell if that had happened!