I was just wondering where the main populace of hubski comes from, I actually came from the reddits. What about everyone else? :)
The taking away of specific votes and such makes me fear for that.
Yep, that was worrying. In the past they've usually been a bit more approachable about the subject of changes.
Nope, Conde Nast bought reddit a few years ago, and it was revealed last year (http://www.businessinsider.com/reddit-ceo-admits-were-still-in-the-red-2013-7) that it's still losing money. Interestingly, they were also trying new, what looked like targeted, Amazon ads just before this announcement. I kind of doubt it's specifically a selling announcement, and more focused on making reddit more attractive to AMAs for celebrities, as a user in that thread hypothesized.
It's all about user base, user base, user base. User base, to an investor, means eyes to whom you can sell to. Whether it be ads, Reddit gold, user information, or some other commodity, having the eyes and thoughts of millions means a great potential for revenue even if it hasn't been cashed in on yet. That's why Facebook got valued in the millions when it went public on the stock exchange before it even started to turn a dollar of profit.
I also migrated from Digg to Reddit, but Digg had really messed up by then. I don't know if I'm going to "migrate" from Reddit to Hubski, or just follow both for a while. I don't think Reddit is entirely messed up yet, and each site seems to have a different purpose. Reddit is big so it has a lot of content, but the discussion is becoming like an echo chamber except in smaller subreddits. Hubski doesn't seem to have a lot of content, but the discussion looks a lot more enriching. So it's breadth vs. depth.
I don't think it needs to be a "one or the other" type of thing either. I always say that I don't eat at just one restaurant and I don't go to just one bar/pub... why would I visit just one aggregator? I hope you enjoy your time here and there. Cheers!
I'll stick to hubski, but not because of some misplaced sense of loyalty. I waste enough time online as it is without having both reddit and hubski.
swedishbadgergirl I agree completely with you on this ^ very post. In fact I don't think I could have said it better.
I found out about hubski when there was the whole thing with the /r/technology sub controversy. I will be honest I haven't been back here much but obviously did make an account. With the new controversy on the up/downvotes system, I am feeling like reddit is making it's way to a /r/hailcorporate level and that saddens me. The admins are usually very responsive, but on this issue they have just been defensive. I think I might be migrating over here.
I don't know when you migrated, but Reddit was relatively small back then, it was so small that nobody cared to censor it or target it. Then a very quality content based userbase started to grow up, and as I said before, reddit's frontpage today would be digg's frontpage tomorrow, and because it was so obscure (first time I was in reddit it felt like an old bbs, didn't know what to do half of the time, and the discussion was nothing compared to what it is now, it was more like a thread of r/askhistorians, you wouldn't want to mess it in there if you didn't have you facts straight. But as you said, for the time being, one compliments the other. If hubski gains traction, I expect several exodus as Reddit gets too big and the admins keep screwing with the userbase.
This is my first. How does these things usually go?
You just stay around, try to contribute with quality content, then hopefully (or not) it will reach critical mass. One of the things I am starting to like about here is that it's so small, you already replied two of my comments in two different communities.
Although to be truthful, the only real migration was from Digg to Reddit. Orkut never caught up, and moving from Digg to Reddit was easy, at that time some posts on Digg were about complaining that Digg's that day frontpage was reddit's yesterdays frontpage. Moving out was simple, a slightly bigger community than here. Ss we are so few, we need to bring the content ourselves. Just post about what you like and eventually it will become bigger, like reddit (it wasn't what it is today, in some sense, here feels like that original reddit 7-8 years ago) I am trying to lure some redditors from r/Zennonet and r/Quest?, people in there are already willing to jump of the boat, they just need an incentive.
Thanks for the advice. I also like that it is small and a bit more user focused than reddit but still focused largely on the content and the discussions.
Looked into the first one, I remember hearing the name as a kid but didn't know anything about it. > On June 30, 2014, Google announced it will be closing Orkut on September 30, 2014. I don't know what's more surprising - that it's closing or that it's been kicking this whole time.
(So yeah, if you want to go back one last time for the nostalgia.)
Me! Redditor gone mad and very vocal critic of the administration there. I can see your userbase booming over the next few days! Reddit is falling apart like a badly made flatpacked table, and you're gonna benefit from it big time :)
Be sure to spread the word all over Reddit when you get the chance! My thought is that if we get enough people to switch over, the admins will take us more seriously.
No, seriously, don't try to get people to join Hubski in some vain attempt to get the admins attention. A: It won't work. Reddit's traffic is huge and even if 50,000 people come here today that's a blip in their numbers. B: It makes all of our lives more difficult and would only work to degrade Hubski into something it should never be. If you're going to invite people, make it be people that you think would be a good fit for the community and nature of the site. Please, don't just blanket invite every person you come across. That creates more problems than it solves.
One of the things I immediately like about hubski - as someone who just signed up last night after seeing it mentioned in that thread - is how small it feels. My favorite part of reddit is the small subreddits that several people can be very active in. I wouldn't want to ruin that by spreading it to everyone, but I have mentioned it to my RL friend. We're looking at HES right now, since it looks to be out of development (sadly).
Yeah...that was from a while ago. The site has changed so much since then. Here's the original thread. Check some of those screenshots! https://hubski.com/pub?id=66843 Other cringey iterations:
Oof, it's definitely gotten better, though it still looks pretty good there (not a fan of that mutli-column thing though). My friend and I are looking at HES to see if it can be updated to do some stuff again. The links for the chrome version 404, and despite running it right now, I don't see it doing anything. We haven't used hubski for very long though, so we're waiting to get a feel for the site and how it works first. I mostly just want to bump up the type size a little, and I wanted a night mode; luckily, I found the dark theme!
For minor changes to the CSS, I recommend stylebot for chrome. You can just add or change rules to as little or as much as you want. I played with it pretty heavily a while back and had it all super slick and shit. Now, I just increase font sizes and line heights across the board because I'm on a 27" iMac at work and this screen is just so freaking big. Here's a random overhaul to the CSS using stylebot - it might be broken now though. I don't even know if the one supertod did still works, but it was fucking epic: https://hubski.com/pub?id=99737
Awesome, thanks! I'll check this out, since minor CSS alterations are all I want. Stylebot is one of those things that I've always meant to check out, but just never have. You think I'd have looked at it, since I spent a lot of my time over the last five years designing and developing websites.
Stylebot is really great and super simple. If you know your way around CSS, the edit CSS button at the bottom is what you want. Use inspect element to pull the class name or id and then write away. It's basically like changing the CSS thru inspect element but automatically loads whenever you visit a certain site. One thing to watch out for is that if you are fucking with the layout of the hubwheel comment title comment, the css is slightly different for the comment page vs the badge page even though the class names are the same. That frustrated me to no end when we were trying to get a semi-responsive version of the site good. Last note, we're just beginning a major rewrite of the backend and frontend of Hubski. We're aiming for Thanksgiving but you know how that goes. So if you pour hours into changes it's all going to break sometime in the next 6 months. :) What languages to you typically work in? I've been doing HTML/CSS/JS for a few years and just redesigned my company's site from scratch. I'm more a designer than developer but it looks like I'm going to get to know some real programming languages for this rewrite which is really, really exiciting!
Awesome, thanks for the info! I'm also more of a designer than a developer. I work mostly in HTML/CSS, JS is something I experiment with, and I do/have done a lot of jQuery, but it's hard for me to get the hang of non-visual stuff. I spent a long time developing / massively altering WordPress themes. That sort of disenchanted me from it, because WordPress can be so bleh, I used to try and build cool little things (like a media player out of jQuery, which was the first thing I learned with it). Now I mostly just alter stuff to suit my needs, though I am working on my own Ghost (ghost.org) theme, so I'm not relying on someone else's theme that I've changed the CSS of drastically. I sort of stopped doing web stuff around the same time I stopped doing Linux stuff, I've focused more on my content since then. I did a lof of php, but always sucked at that. I do love ruby, especially Sinatra (which I'd call a framework, but apparently it's a DSL? I dunno), and I should probably tinker with it some more.
Ugh. I hate wordpress. I built our new site on CouchCMS which I cannot say enough brilliant things about. It's flawless. It's brilliant. It's amazing. It's perfect. It does everything and nothing and everyone at work who currently fails as being able to update content without screwing up layout or something has been able to use Couch successfully. The nicest thing is I GET TO CODE MY WAY - MY STUFF. It's 100% mine. Then I just place the tags in it, or make it editable, or have the pages be populated automatically with content, etc. Everything about it just makes sense. It just works. It's just like "duh" - the exact opposite of my experience with Wordpress and Joomla. I've had ruby on my list for a while but with all the amazing stuff people are doing with node.js and react and angular and sails and stylus and blah blah blah - I'm going to be learning that next. I really gotta start by fully understanding the concepts behind objects and server side stuff first though. That's the one thing I still struggle with. I work closely with my best friend and programmer at work so I get lazy about learning new things when he can just do them for me.That sort of disenchanted me from it, because WordPress can be so bleh
WordPress is good for some people, to me (I've been following it for a long time), it's gotten gloated and over complicated. Joomla was the very first CMS I used, and I used it for a very short amount of time, it was awful. I have even worse experiences with Drupal. Node.js looks incredibly cool, but I have the same problem as you as far as not really understanding objects. I can deal with server side stuff to a certain extent, but if I start seeing error messages, I lose my cool pretty quick. I ran various linux distros for about ten years, and that didn't change me: error messages in a terminal inspire terror in my gut. If I were still actively working on web stuff, rather than the casual stuff I do now, I'd absolutely force myself to be up to date on all of that, but I've fallen behind. My best friend is also a programmer. One night we were at my house trying to develop an inventory system for our workplace in php. I think both of us detest php, and we spent four or five hours debugging something that ended up being whitespace. ironpotato's tried to get me to look at programming stuff before, mostly application development, I think. I've tried to get him into web stuff before. We just can't get into the other's territory. Oops, forgot something: I'm a writer, so all I really need these days is a plain content-only website, that's why I use Ghost even though it's still pretty early in development.
Me. Hopefully this is the beginning of another website migration.
Amen to that! The badmins just learned that when the manure impacts the air circulation device, things can go downhill in a heartbeat.
walkingbush that is the best rewording of "When shit hits the fan" I've ever seen. I think I'm going to use that when I need a clever way to say "When shit hits the fan" :D
Hopefully not. The problem with Reddit is the people on Reddit. If they all come here, the problem would be following us. We should make sure that we only promote Hubski to levelheaded, decent, and interesting people so that it doesn't turn to shit.
It'll be about as effective as hanging a 'keep out' sign.
The important thing to do would be to figure out methods by which an influx of users is handled properly. The web's never been good about handling Eternal September-like scenarios - and until a community comes up that starts thinking about the problem well in advance and taking measures to anticipate/stem the tide, it's just going to keep happening.
At first I thought it was some stupid game they were doing again (like the orangered vs periwinkle stuff), then I read the mod post. The shill posters in r/gaming when the ps4/xbox one was about to come out, all the craziness that went down in /r/technology and now this was it for me. I like the minimalist design, and the conversations seem to be much better here.
I'm here for a while to test it. Whatever idiocy is going on with the (?|?) PR disaster is driving people away, I spent the better part of my afternoon looking for a replacement. Your post led me here. I decided to retain my username, though. Cashews are pretty fucking good.
Interesting. I personally (almost) never use the same username for multiple websites.
I stick with CashewGuy for a lot of websites, I even bought cashewguy.com (and threw a video of Malcom Tucker from The Thick of It on there, NSFW language). Mostly I do this because I'm not very creative with names, but also because I've gone by CashewGuy on IRC for years, and it's just easier. Also, cashews are awesome. They've never let me down, and I won't let them down.
Agreed. Cashews are really nice. I also decided to keep my username, makes it feel more like a migration.
I'll be on reddit off and on for a while I suspect. Mostly because it's just a hard thing to break away from something so ubiquitous. For instance, I've got AlienBlue on my phone and iPad (whereas, Hubski has no mobile app, and the mobile link doesn't work for me). I also moderate a smallish subreddit, and I'm hesitant to leave the few that I'm active on behind (writing, gay, writingprompts, a few others).
My sticking to one has more to do with me wasting enough time online as it is than anything else.
I came over from Reddit a long time ago, still have an account that I use mainly for the sports and regional subreddits though. Just something I want to point out: It's great that there's a lot of new people are coming over here and growing the community. I don't think the point of Hubski is to become huge and the next result of an exodus from one site to another. Doesn't easily facilitate the kind discussion and culture that permeates this place if you have thousands of new people signing up everyday, you know? This comment by white sums it up best. That said, hope you all enjoy it here and get to know some of us.
I think the issue is that two aren't mutually exclusive. It's possible to grow and maintain what has been established here, however, that is best done organically and not by push-button issues that happen on Reddit or any other site for that matter. New users come and go all the time, and the community has been growing progressively larger. I don't see it being taken in stride because that would defeat the entire point of this place. It's not meant to be a place where people are posting low-effort content (most of the time) and not really interacting with one another. It's really more of a melding of personalities, interests, and personal connections which is why I like that bar analogy so much. That's what could be lost and that's why I don't think it would be taken in stride if there was a continued, significant explosion in the user base. But I'm not on the dev team so this is all just my opinion.What if that happens though? Do you think Hubski would take it in stride or does this community really want to see this place be very niche?
I think that makes sense. Personally, coming from reddit to here, it's like standing in the center of Manhattan, to walking into a really local, familiar, coffee shop–Or I guess a bar, I'm just not really into bars haha I don't think Hubski will see a mass migration or anything like that, I'm just happy what happened over at reddit ultimately because without that, I wouldn't have found Hubski! You people are so kind that it already feels like I've been here a while, I'm going to make myself comfortable and contribute what I can. Thanks for answering my questions :)
You know I am. I've been sick of the shallow discussions for a while now. Browsing the programming tags on here I think I'm already in love.
My Name is CpnKangarooPimp and this is my first meeting. I have been Reddit sober for about 4 hours now. I found out about Hubski when the Karma Court convened on Reddit. I don't get the sterilization of the web movement in the past few months/years. First Digg, then Disqus, and now Reddit. It is like they all want to be like schools now a days where everyone is a special snowflake and everyone is a winner and everyone gets a trophy. Bah! I sound like an old man.
A lot of us came from reddit. Many people came from fuckinghomepage.com recently too.
Yes, I just came over. I am sick of Reddit's Hivemind, the Reddit Effect, and the fact that the community acts like it Reddit is a person. Reddit is not a 25 year old white male, it's a pretty diverse culture if you look back. I finally snapped when I was reading a thread discussing the backlash of the recent changes (Need I say which ones?) and I read some rather disparaging comments about people who were on the fence about leaving. Really, at this point, there is little on Reddit that actually enjoy. Couldn't read a subreddit without disliking some part. r/todayilearned was awful because of reposting and the fact that 1 in 5 posts was factually incorrect. r/funny wasn't funny. r/gaming... I'm a gamer, but I guess I was born to late because I find it's impossible to enjoy that crowd. I'm mostly a wanderer now. Reddit was great in one aspect. There was a community for everything. I like ODSTs from Halo, but they are obscure. There was a subreddit that occasionally popped about to surprise me.
I'm still going to use reddit, I'm just checking you guys out, I came via the karma court thread. And I must say the visuals on hubski are pretty cool.
I came from reddit and hope that other people will follow and that hubski will become big and prosperous.
I came here from reddit like 9 months ago, when hubski was mentioned somewhere in the comments. Since then I regularly check hubski, basically daily. Still waiting for the projected hubski downfall due to an inflation of new reddit users some users predicted during their rant cough
Was on Reddit for awhile. It was interesting, about 50% worthwhile posts and replies that were funny and interesting, and 50% felt like a relentless mean-spirited troll attack trying to assimilate me and turn me into a negative, overly cynical person who had nothing better to do than to tear down and destroy. Perhaps 50% worthwhile was good for the web, but I felt awful enough too often that I left. Not sure what this place is like yet, but so far so good.
I made this account a while ago, and used Hubski on and off. I might start to use Hubski more and more, though, but I don't think I'm ready to give up Reddit quite yet. Just today, I found an RES module that will take filters I give it and filter out comments and the entire child-tree of that comment if it contains that filter. I modified it to accept regex. I'm getting sick of the lack of quality on Reddit lately.
I'm getting there. Letting people create and run their own communities was a great idea, but it didn't scale. Some large subreddits (like AskScience) maintained quality with growth through strict moderation and clear rules, but few mods are able to do that.
Was introduced from Reddit a while back, lost interest, rejoined today. Hubski has some issues but substantially less than Reddit.
So, hmmm, how do you upvote something here? also, how do I create a new subhubski?
Upvote? Click on the circle-like thing to the left of a comment or post. As for a subreddit equivalent, there isn't really one - you follow people, tags, and/or domains. You can sort of fake it by posting things under a specific tag though.
Also, you can use personal tags on Hubski which people can follow and that are specific only to you.
There's no way to whitelist other people to post under your personal tag, though (well, that I know of), so it's a help but not really a subreddit equivalent.
Nonexistent, fortunately. Refer to this post for some discussion on that front.