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user-inactivated  ·  3592 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: What's the most scarring thing you've ever seen or experienced?

    (this seems like a terrible first post)

It is, but that's fine. I don't know if the insecurity (which might be too strong of a word) that new posters feel when they first come here is a good or bad thing. I felt it when I first came here and tried to prove my value to... who?

But I think you'll find posts in the vein of yours will receive (edit: next to..) no responses.

Hubski likes to compare itself to a bar. Let's say this is a dive bar and the familiars are friends, acquaintances, or have at least seen each other on occassion. Do you walk in for the first time, start going person to person and say "hey what's the most traumatic thing you've experienced"?

Nope. Its usually best to hang out for a while, get used to the crowd and the faces and the culture.

I think this is the first time I've welcomed someone to hubski... I'm not too shy of a year and still don't feel very qualified. But welcome to hubski.





thenewgreen  ·  3592 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You are well qualified and that was a very good and well explained example of why this post might come across as awkward to existing users. Thanks for it, I might steel your clearly thought out example for future guidance. Thanks.

havires  ·  3592 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Noted, I think I'll lurk and reply in threads. Thanks for the heads up. I appreciate how awesome this place has been though, with all of the messages about various things to check out and take a look at.

swedishbadgergirl  ·  3592 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I liked the question. It's an interesting one and if you don't want to discuss it you don't have to. The last thing hubski needs is lurkers.

ButterflyEffect  ·  3592 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    The last thing hubski needs is lurkers.

I'm interested as to why you think that's the case. There's nothing wrong with people lurking and simply sharing posts, not everybody has to be a contributor on the site. If somebody wants to enjoy the submissions and conversations by lurking I see nothing wrong with that.

thenewgreen  ·  3592 days ago  ·  link  ·  

swedishbadgergirl and humanodon -check out this lurker roll call post from a while back. Interesting stuff.

I for one love the lurkers. I create a lot of original content on Hubski and I'm glad to know that there are people, phantom beings, out there in the aether hopefully enjoying it. My favorite is when I see a post with some shares and click to see who has shared it and there's a user that is 200+ days old that shared it but has never commented. It takes all types.

humanodon  ·  3591 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yes, I remember that thread. Good one to highlight for new and longtime users alike.

swedishbadgergirl  ·  3592 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I see nothing wrong with lurking either and lurkers are better than no users but I think it's wrong to encourage someone who is posting to lurk.

humanodon  ·  3592 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think most of hubski is populated by lurkers. If you check out the community page you can see who the most active users are. Many of those on those lists are people who interact with each other to a fairly high degree and while I agree that more active users are welcome, lurkers aren't so bad.

swedishbadgergirl  ·  3592 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I don't think lurking is bad, but I think stopping to be an active poster to lurk is not really a thing that should be encouraged when someone is posting content already.

humanodon  ·  3592 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Well, having been through several waves of reddit influxes all I can say is that like in real life, people try things out before finding out what the deal is with this place and that is probably why a lot of people don't stay from said influxes.

From my view, this site is all about engaging with our interests and with each other through conversation. Sounds simple, but it does require more effort than it might seem at first glance. I've noticed that a lot of comments from influxes respond to the article or video, but not to the rest of the community or at least don't really invite conversation, merely "I think this." I'm not pointing any fingers at any users, it's just an observation.

So just because someone is posting content doesn't mean that they are inviting conversation. There are users who do nothing but post links to their own websites and unsurprisingly, are not much paid attention to. Then again, there are users who do that, but their posts do gain traction because they're posts worth talking about in the minds of the user base.

swedishbadgergirl  ·  3592 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That is good point, but i think one can adapt to conversations and realize what the site is about while posting and that telling users to not post at all is contra productive to making hubski a more active place for conversation. but then again, i joined today and have probably not gotten the hang of the site yet.

humanodon  ·  3592 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Ok swedish, if you're around for the next few influxes let's see if your opinion stays the same! So far I have seen a reddit thread just like this one far too often and in a month or so, 99% are gone, never to be heard from again, for whatever reason. Also note that the user you initially responded to did not tell users not to post or to lurk and is also very new.

_refugee_  ·  3592 days ago  ·  link  ·  

On a side note, humano, I think it's interesting that while there's quite a bit of conversation on this post there are no shares, and I think that it's perhaps a representation of some of the emotions that you are feeling.

humanodon  ·  3592 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I don't like that shares and approval share the same space. I feel like they're often intertwined.

I'm just glad the site is running ok. I need something to do as I head into Boston, hopefully to sign a lease.

_refugee_  ·  3592 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think that it is interesting because although people are willing to discuss the question at hand, this clear lack of sharing indicates that they do not seem to think it is worth talking about with their friends. Like "Yes I'll bite, but maybe it's just because I'm bored and need something to do, not because this is necessarily the most interesting investment of my time, and as a result I'm not going to share this thread."

That's kind of how I see it, less about approval but more about quality of content. People may post on it because it's something to do but opt not to share it because they don't necessarily think it is something everyone wants to do, or so on.

humanodon  ·  3591 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Maybe, but there's also no need to share threads like this since lots of eyes are on it anyway.

mk, what if threads with lots of conversation automatically generated a global share?

swedishbadgergirl  ·  3591 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think that people don't share it because they have similar sentiments to those that have been expressed here. They think that this is a topic that is wrong for hubski and to personal I guess.

_refugee_  ·  3591 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I don't think it's the too personal thing. You haven't been around but we share a lot of personal stuff on Hubski:

- kb tells us about his daughter

- Bfx tells us about getting dumped

- tng tells us about HIS amazing story

- I'd link to you to my own #askhubski about my brother and assholes, but I can't find it. here ya go

We do share personal things here. I think they just have to be the right personal things. There's been plenty of personal #askhubskis. I think #askhubskis are more successful when the OP has been established on Hubski for a while - when users know and care about the OP.

swedishbadgergirl  ·  3591 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I guess it's too personal too soon then. Reddit is about the fact that you are anonymous and is a lot about sharing things early so I could get why redditors show up and asks these kinds of things. Here it's more like an actual relationship, you don't start out with the heavy questions.

thenewgreen  ·  3591 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Here is a better link to the event that _ref_ is referring to regarding me. It was pretty scarring, but also pretty amazing.

swedishbadgergirl  ·  3591 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Aww. Atticus is a bad-ass name and your son is adorable. Thanks for sharing!

swedishbadgergirl  ·  3592 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I replied to someone saying they were going to lurk instead of posting, I thought the person he replied to was reasonable. And you are right in that I might get another perspective on the issue when I've been here a while.

swedishbadgergirl  ·  3592 days ago  ·  link  ·  
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