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kleinbl00  ·  1805 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Ukrainian airliner crashes near Tehran: Iranian media

I can't speak for necroptosis but I can point out that arguing he's your former high school teacher is an ineffective rhetorical strategy.

It's telling that you haven't discovered this yet. You often reframe arguments in terms of "my prior experience is this, it makes me very angry, answer for the crimes of the people in my past." If I were to describe your interactions on this website, I would say that the happy ones are you looking forward and the angry ones are you holding someone else accountable for your past.

What's interesting is you often speak of your transformation in terms of the liberation it brought you but it takes effectively nothing to make you clutch your chains. Then, bonds-in-hand, you lash out like a caged animal at The Bad Man In Fourteenth Grade while pretending it's somebody here. You have been explicitly invited - numerous times, in an understandable spectrum of politeness - to reframe your arguments in the terms under discussion but, as is often the case, you self-righteously assert that your past is the only frame worth considering.

So tell me Nil,

who killed you?

This angry ghost routine is not helping you process it. You refuse to see the real people around you in favor of the phantasms that haunt you still. You make your way towards happiness only to jump off the road, clutch your petticoat and shout at the evil monsters who touched you in a bad way - talk about PTSD, your life is like High School Groundhog Day.

I understand why these discussions make you antsy - you had the world figured out, then you didn't, and you refuse to figure it out again until the world apologizes for lying to you. You're going to be disappointed in that, though, and I think you know it - if I had to guess, most of your anger is over the odious task of giving up on the apology and moving forward with your life.

Can't help you with that, kid. None of us can. We're all interested in your contributions here in the physical plane, though, despite your regular need to shout at ghosts. Just recognize that the more you do it, the more we switch from "talking to someone with passion" to "talking to someone with a disability" and that probably doesn't feel great to you. Maybe you see this as a way to work through it. Take it from 20 years of anger issues: you gotta keep most of it on the inside or the inside is all you're left with.

You know what helps me sleep at night? Progress.





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necroptosis  ·  1804 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Well look at that, I’ve been called a mass murderer. I feel like I’ve just checked a box in ‘The American military experience’

am_Unition  ·  1804 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I didn't interpret his statement like that, but I understand where you're coming from.

I'm very thankful that you decided to speak up and give your perspective. We needed to hear it.

You should post more. You used to post much more, I think, and it was always enjoyable. :)

kleinbl00  ·  1804 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Naaah he's totally calling NC a mass murderer. That's the problem with relying on superheated rhetoric: someone's gonna get burned. At least you don't have to think much, you just open your mouth and the flamethrower comes out. It's a very cathartic way to live, albeit a lonely one.

Devac  ·  1804 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I hope you'll come back, nil. You're definitely going to be missed.

kleinbl00  ·  1804 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Ahhh, yes. The "QQ", internet rhetoric's Crane Kick.

Per canon law, I hereby acknowledge the 100% rhetorical, spiritual, metaphysical and factual correctness of your arguments, validate your every emotion and salve your savaged fee fees. A spirited debate, sir, but one in which you have CRUSHED. My hat tips in your general direction.

Know that when the toddler behind your eyes finishes his tantrum, you are welcome back into the fold. You're a clever dude with much to add but we both know the argument you're having isn't with anyone here. And while I understand the appeal of sounding one's barbaric yawp across the roof of the world I will point out that you didn't actually do anything here.

And I suspect your inability to actually do anything is one of the root causes of your self-loathing.

kingmudsy  ·  1804 days ago  ·  link  ·  

...Fuck, nil. It hurts to see you go like this. I really hope you find a way back to us someday, I really liked having you around. You'll be in my thoughts, I hope you think about us too.

am_Unition  ·  1804 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm super bummed to see you leave, man. We're a worse community without you. To say that I greatly admire your passion and idealism would be understating things.