I think I found it... this isn't exactly it - but it has some of the bits from the piece I listened to (and more). http://www.npr.org/2016/06/13/481853366/in-wake-of-orlando-shooting-clinton-suggests-broader-terror-watch-listsShe also called for creating more "integrated intelligence use" between local, state, and national law enforcement, "strengthening communication" with other countries, and working with Silicon Valley to "prevent online radicalization."
IN MY OPINION: If the FBI has had a sit-down with you twice, and decided that there's nothing they can hold you for, all the 1984 Minority Report Brave New World Zardoz psychic violence thoughtcrime monitoring in the world isn't going to make anyone one iota safer. Frickin' Russian intelligence sent the FBI a mash note saying "Hey, this guy Tsarniev - we think he's really fuckin' dangerous" and he still filled a pressure cooker full of nails. Are we really going to get more actionable intelligence by monitoring everyone's Facebook feed?
http://digg.com/2015/why-mass-surveillance-cant-wont-and-never-has-stopped-a-terrorist Excuse the Digg. I figure Schneier's worth it.
Schneier's a policy guy, and in my opinion, he gets it. Bamford is far more of a history/strategy geek and he says much the same thing. years before Snowden he pointed out that the intelligence community's approach to finding a needle in a haystack is to collect as much hay as humanly possible on the assumption that there's a needle in there somewhere. However, the actual needle-finding techniques have experienced zero advancement since the time of the OSS. There are better ways. What they mean is: Will Muslims turn in other Muslims? Haddad has a ready answer. “Not only would they, they do,” he says. “They’ve done it.”Ron Haddad is Dearborn’s chief of police, and he says he gets one question a lot when he travels around the country. “Someone will come up to me and put their finger in my face, and they’re already angry,” he says. “They say, ‘Will the people in your community report acts of terror to you?’“