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- But in the meantime, they'll shout and scream and maybe even throw a few punches. And with the first contested convention in decades, every camera will be on the lookout for signs of chaos. The country will watch as the GOP tears itself to pieces, all before the Democrats hold an optimistic yet sedate convention at which Hillary Clinton assures the country that whatever they may not like about her, at least she isn't some kind of lunatic like the people who populate the other party.
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blackbootz · 1174 days ago · link ·
Ha. And they'll be armed at the convention, too, if Change.org petitions amounted to policy change. Though it's sort of hard to imagine guns being allowed near so many VIPs, it is a logical extension of die-hard 2nd amendment nuts.
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As I recall the secret service was not interested in the democratic process on that one.
WanderingEng · 1174 days ago · link ·
I think the Democrats would be vulnerable if the Republicans had a stronger candidate. Neither Sanders or Clinton strike me as a candidate who can inspire centrists to vote for them. Someone like John McCain circa 2000 with a strong VP would walk right to the White House. But this lineup? It should be an exciting time for someone who would like to see the Republican Party fall apart.
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The greater issue is that the modern Republican party drives out stronger candidates. I mean, the debates had a fuckin' kid's table there were so many. Back then it was Jeb Bush and the Sixteen Dwarfs but as it turns out, not even a Bush can get traction in this miasma.
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WanderingEng · 1174 days ago · link ·
Objectively, was Bush the strongest candidate there? Are the strongest candidates pushed out of even running to begin with?
I'm a centrist and I'm leaning towards Clinton right now which terrifies me. I never thought I'd end up in a situation where I would favor Clinton, seeing as I don't really trust or like her. But there's no one else around. It's like standing on the pitchers mound and the only other people are Clinton a little past third base, Sanders off near the fence in left field, Cruz same to the right and Trump is basically running all over outside the diamo like a five-year old. Might as well vote Clinton and hope someone else comes along in 2020.Neither Sanders or Clinton strike me as a candidate who can inspire centrists to vote for them.
It's really hard for Trump to win the nomination now, and if he doesn't, it's unlikely he'll win on the second round of voting. Fivethirtyeight is betting that Cruz will win on the second round. That probably won't help the republicans any.
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ghostoffuffle · 1174 days ago · link ·
First thought was: it's absurd that Ted Cruz is the Republican's best-case scenario at this point. After this article: there is no best case. Can't imagine a pathway to a Republican presidency at this point. Every option spells disaster.
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ghostoffuffle · 1174 days ago · link ·
The more I follow the R primaries, the more I'm reminded of these guys. I vote to post all future R-prime material under #trialbystone.