Dude, the amount of time I put in to choosing, for contextual, textual, emotional and personal reasons, the music used is what takes the most time. Each song used in this is with intent. Hell, even the louder nature of the songs in the mix was intentional this time. I wish ButterflyEffect were here to let me know if he felt they added or subtracted or if he noticed the references etc. some are obvious, like the use of "Circle" by Edie Brickel when discussing inactivating his account, but others are specific to the content and the user. My overall question isn't how to incorporate music in the mix it's rather yay or nay. It think I've gotten pretty adept at using music and sound to help forge a narrative in the #tngpodcast's but it may actually detract from #meethubski
I have had so many fights about this, online and off. I could link you to a few offline. I've actually managed to have this discussion with a couple Oscar-nominated composers, and I worked with Alexandra Patsavas. I've negotiated mechanical rights and I've worked with composers on scores. The most important thing to mention to you I learned from Hummie Mann. It's like this: "Circle" by Edie Brickel means something very specific to you. It builds a very specific emotion for you. But that might be the song that was playing when I broke up with Trish. It might be that song Bob played over and over when he fucking refused to give up drinking. It might be any number of negative (or positive, or otherwise emotionally-charged) reactions that you have absolutely no control over. When you take extant music and dump it on a story, you are spinning the wheel as to how the audience reacts. An example: What does that song mean to you? I'll bet it's powerful. You probably have a lot of emotions associated with your experience of that song 'cuz it was fuckin' everywhere and it's pretty lyrical. Those of us in Reality TV, however, have probably worked with one or more people who grew up working on The Real World. Those people were used to the editors temping Everybody Hurts over every emotional montage on the show. And thus, those of us with an experience in Reality TV production are used to cracking up whenever there's something melodramatic happening because some asshole will crack the walkie and start the guitar over the top of it. I've been that asshole more than a few times. In fact, I had a movie with an overly melodramatic scene in the 3rd act that I was able to successfully get cut down by pointing out to the producer that "Everybody Hurts" was shorter than the scene. Bizarre niche case? Surely. But our reactions to music are all bizarre niche cases. "They're playing our song." I mean, fuck - Peter Gabriel's "In Your Eyes" kept me in a bad relationship for four years. I still love it but it's an emotionally-charged tune to say the least. This is why people hire composers: music is powerful and music with no preexisting associations always works better than extant songs. And this is why people hire music supervisors: music is powerful and if they can find a song that nobody has heard before to shove into that scene, they'll make money off the soundtrack, the band will get rich and the entire project will be elevated. It matters. My advice? Stop trying to be a DJ and start trying to be a composer. You wanna put music behind the podcasts? Compose music behind the podcasts. You're probably the most prolific musician I know and it'd probably be a good exercise. - a friend of mineWhenever I'm really blue, I cruise Pornhub and find something ridiculously dirty. Then I download it and I open up Logic. Then I drop that nasty porn on the video track and I make the most ridiculous orchestral score I can. Never fails to cheer me up.
seconded. (I mean - I acknowledge that you've got a lot going on - but this could be a great and challenging way to play hockey. And when you accept that Oscar for best original score... we'll all remember that one time when KB brought it strong and pushed you into it.)start trying to be a composer. You wanna put music behind the podcasts? Compose music behind the podcasts. You're probably the most prolific musician I know and it'd probably be a good exercise.
Damn. Sorry. Now I feel weird... I assumed something you were just throwing "interesting" tracks in the background... but you were actually being really intentional about it. I guess I'll just go over here and sit in the corner for a bit. Sorry for not appreciating the work you had been putting into it...