I'm not saying to go over there or anything. Well, I mean you probably are. In my three days at hubski I have really liked it here, I like this structure. Reddit feels weird now that I have been away from it, it's like going back to your high school after you graduate, just weird.
I just spent about 30 mins over at Voat. It's also weird, kinda like going back to your high school but somethings different, but overall still feels the same.
I can say with confidence that I will be using both sites, probably more mindless self indulgence (v/WTF, v/gifs, etc...) over at voat. But I think real things will come here...
I'm glad you enjoy your time here hanszyme. People are probably sick of me saying it, but I don't eat at just one restaurant, why would I visit just one aggregator? There are a number of them out there and ideally, each would scratch a different itch. As you can tell, we didn't create Hubski to be a reddit clone, we created it to be something that didn't previously exist, something worth creating. Time will tell if we can sustain this.... The more I get to talk with you and others that are coming over from reddit, the more convinced I am that we can.
We are working on a number of things with the goal being a functional API, improved search capabilities and a more robust tagging system with suggested tags etc. As for how you can help now? Continue to invite your smart friends and online amigos to Hubski. Evangelize, to the right people, what you have seen here. Go rinx, spread the gospel of Hubski so that others might live meme free lives. :) Glad you found us! Let me know if you have any questions about the site etc.
Yeah, if there was an API, I'd be all over some app making. I got some cool ideas, but I guess I'll have to wait and see if they pan out.
I feel the same way. I go to reddit for my more specific/niche discussions (such as coin collecting, metal detecting, and so on) as well as the fact that it's fun to watch the gears of reddit's admin/mod/etc situation turn, especially lately. I haven't really been checking out Hubski as much as I hoped to. I do enjoy the... longer duration of Hubski stuff, I suppose. There's a heck of a lot of discussion worth reading here, and I've only really checked it on occasion to read my feed/global feed; I haven't quite dug down very deep yet but I already like it. And I don't have much of an opinion of Voat. It's got some interesting ideas as far as voting, but I haven't really been much into the topics that are more typical of that. Tons of it's about reddit (which I already see/read discussions about anyways on reddit itself), and the rest of it feels like a smaller reddit that's pretending to be more established than it really is, or something. That might not quite be the correct way to explain how I see it, but it's something along those lines. I know one of my earliest impressions of it was "reddit for people who aren't allowed in reddit". I know that's not really true, but the amount of reddit hate I saw made me feel that way. And now yesterday I hear about commentum and snapzu, but again I have pretty much no opinion of them, other than that commentum left a good first impression and snapzu left a worse one.
Yeah, I don't feel like it's a competition, even though I guess in some ways it is. We would like to have the smart, thoughtful, creative and interesting people find us and stick around, so in that sense I suppose I feel the need to ensure those people know about us. But, in the end people will go to the place that best satisfies their needs. What we have going for us more than any other place being mentioned is longevity. We've been around for nearly 5 years. Over that time we have implemented MANY things to combat some of the challenges that will no doubt occur at some of the other places. We also have a very clear mission that we will not deviate from. In short, this isn't our first rodeo :) Stick around wolf. Glad you found us 654 days ago! Wow.
There's quite a few problems, the main one being that you now need to define what is and isn't offensive. What offends you will be different to what offends me. If you go around removing everything that offends anyone you'll end up with nothing at all. In the specific case of Reddit, I began to have problems when they announced they wanted to turn it into a "safe space". "Safe spaces" for thoughts don't and shouldn't exist. Other people should be open to criticize everything you say. You have the options of engaging in that conversation, or if they are aggressive, just ignoring them. Going around claiming that people shouldn't say certain things because it 'offends' you is not very constructive.
I don't browse /r/all, so I'm unaware of the impact different subreddits have there. However, I don't really remember any of the announcements or blog posts talking about /r/all. Can you show them to me? I'm also a little confused about these different "kinds of safe spaces" you're talking about. The one I see Reddit pushing for is an environment where certain 'things' cannot be said (without a rigorous definition of said 'things'). What type of safe space do you see as a good thing?
People were upset that FPH was banned and other, far more toxic subreddits were left untouched. If you are going to start moderating the content on your site, you need to moderate all of that content consistently. Also, the great thing about that subreddit system is that people who think a certain way will stay in their own subreddits. There are really horrifically racist subreddits, as an example. If people tried to say those sorts of things on another subreddit, they would get shouted down so fast and likely banned for good measure. If you don't want to see those kinds of things, don't go to their subreddits.
FPH got onto /r/all regularly, no other hate sub achieved that. They constantly posted pictures from other parts of reddit to make fun of those people, There's no way a system like that doesn't leak. The problem is that subs like this allow people to feel that their ideas are validated. You cannot argue that hating on a massive group of people is normal or okay.
As long as people are around we will find some reason to segregate into groups and hate one another. Historically, hating large groups of people is something humans are very good at. Is it normal? Yes, in that the "us-them" mentality has been around for a long time. Do I agree with it? No. Not at all, and we should all as individuals try our best to eliminate that "us-them" mentality from ourselves. You're right, I can't argue that hating on a group of people is okay and that is not what I'm arguing at all. Where did you see me make that argument? In everyday life people will hate you for no reason whatsoever. As a brown guy I get racist comments hurled at me on the street all the time. Is it okay? No. It isn't. However, since when did "sticks and stones" stop being applicable? People can say or think what they like. Thought crime doesn't exist. As soon as it turns into action is where problems arise.
I think it has less to do with the lax moderation than it does with the fact that the biggest proponents and most active users of it are the kind of people who get moderated out of most other places. If you wanted a more 'free speech' platform frizbee (which feels more like 4chan than reddit) seems more appropriate and won't be forced to go down the same path as reddit to become a pointless clone.
No, I brainfarted and added in the '.uk' on autopilot. it's a '.co' TLD.
Reddit feels weird now that I have been away from it Ain't that the truth? I never noticed anything wrong before I left (well, the quality of the comments was declining, but that was already happening for a long time), but when I go back there now I shudder to think I used to get almost all my information there. It's like suddenly realizing that your best friend from high school has slowly turned into an asshole.
I'm enjoying being on Hubski a lot more than I ever was on reddit, so I think I'll skip out on voat. The community seems much friendlier and like people I actually want to talk to. But I think I'll still frequent the smaller communities on reddit that I liked - a few tv show subreddits were great for post episode discussion, some game ones always had news or announcements I didn't know about. In general there are areas of interest that hubski seems too small right now to accommodate, but I hope it keeps growing. It's a very nice site.
Right now, I'm trying out Voat, Hubski, snapzu and Frisbee; I have each site opened in separate browser tabs each day, while I figure out my post-reddit browsiness. Voat and Hubski are the ones I find myself at most often: Hubski for astonishingly literate conversation, mind gets all excited at the ideas traded about... and Voat, when it's up, seems to be the Reddit replacement, a bit more mainstream, casual. So far. Alternatively, Voat is an upscale McDonalds/Subway in a nice part of town but with really weird hours, and Hubski is the small independent bookstore with lively literary events.
After being here only for a few days going back to Reddit, I realized almost all of the subreddits I go on are just circlejerks to make people feel better about their opinions (e.g. r/tumblrinaction, r/edc, r/tinder, r/thathappened, etc) as well as to just show off what they have that other people don't. The only real conversations I see are in askreddit threads, and one sub does not a whole website make (or something like that I don't know the exact phrase...). But anyway I think I may curb my time at Reddit to spend mroe time here where there are real discussions to take part in and not just a huge circlejerk everywhere I look...