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thenewgreen  ·  3242 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Dear America, get your head out of your ass about Bernie Sanders

There are always real threats, regardless of the times. You're my age, I'm guessing you recall the time that a small group of radical muslims decided to board a few planes. There are people that are intent on harming us. This is not disputable. That said, there's no arguing that foreign attacks on US soil have been rare, but if nothing else, the result of the 911 reaction from the US proves how important it is to assess a leaders thoughts and capabilities regarding such things. Honestly, there are two things I would hate to see in the white house, a militant war monger or a pacifist. Both would likely lead to catastrophe.

I don't know squat about Sanders in this regard, so this is not a critique, rather a question.





cgod  ·  3242 days ago  ·  link  ·  

We could sustain several 911's a year and they would do less damage to our freedoms and budget than the response to 911 has caused. The terrorist nicked us and we set in with a chainsaw on our own finances and freedoms. Our militarist attitudes make us a bigger danger to ourselves than any threat of terrorism.

thenewgreen  ·  3242 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    there are two things I would hate to see in the white house, a militant war monger or a pacifist. Both would likely lead to catastrophe.
-We've seen the result of the former.
galen  ·  3242 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Or at least a weak-willed president with a warmongering cabinet, depending on who you ask.

thenewgreen  ·  3242 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I don't think that GW was weak willed and I don't buy the puppet of Cheney and his cabinet that many people espouse. GW was a man of conviction. He believed strongly in his God given course and I believe that the buck stopped with him. Edit: He was one of the most effective presidents we have ever had. He got more done than anyone gives him credit for. Why? Because the things he accomplished sucked. Whole new branches of government. Tax cuts for the wealthy, two wars etc.

Check out Front Line Bush's War. It's a good doc imo.

galen  ·  3242 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I don't disagree. There was a great article a while back about Bush's hidden intellect, but I'll be damned if I can find it now. Anyway, I just wanted to point out the controversy.

b_b  ·  3242 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Discussed at length here:

Creativity  ·  3242 days ago  ·  link  ·  
galen  ·  3242 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Thanks!

Caspus  ·  3212 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I've only been alive for some 20-odd years, but it seems to me that the United States - on a public-facing front since a few presidents before my time - is very much a tempest on the world stage. We have the sheer size, influence, finances and military strength to rival or eclipse almost any other nation on the planet, and yet such power gets wielded with all the tact and nuance of a drunken rhino.

Looking at other countries in Europe, Africa, Asia, even South America to a degree, I see peoples who are heavily invested in, understanding of, and perceptive of the world around them, the players involved, and what their motivations are. The degree to which the United States continues to bumble about in self-imposed ignorance as if this was somehow a mark of greatness is mind boggling to me.