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b_b  ·  3396 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: 11th Occasional Give Us a Quote from Your Recent Reading

“The things you learn in maturity aren’t simple things such as acquiring information and skills. You learn not to engage in self-destructive behavior. You learn not to burn up energy in anxiety. You discover how to manage your tensions. You learn that self-pity and resentment are among the most toxic of drugs. You find that the world loves talent but pays off on character.

“You come to understand that most people are neither for you nor against you; they are thinking about themselves. You learn that no matter how hard you try to please, some people in this world are not going to love you, a lesson that is at first troubling and then really quite relaxing.”

-John Gardner (Qtd. in NYT 1/6/15)





swedishbadgergirl  ·  3396 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Damn. I needed to hear that.

lil  ·  3394 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I checked the John Gardner quotation in the NYT article, "The Problem with Meaning" by David Brooks. I also read the first several of the NYT picks of the comments. These add several important dimensions to the article. Your chosen quote, though, of the things you learn in maturity - is very well stated. I'm not sure if those things you learn in maturity are teachable.

Another quote by David Brooks is in one of the comments:

    "Everyone is born with a mind...but it is only through introspection, observation, connecting the head and the heart, making meaning of experience and finding an organizing purpose that you build a unique individual self."
I speculate that introspection and observation might be teachable to a certain extent. Some people are very resistant to introspecting or have brains that are constructed so as to make it more difficult.
b_b  ·  3394 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I actually think Brooks is a blowhard and not often correct. That's why I didn't link the article from which I pulled the quote. Given that it wasn't Brooks who came up with it, I didn't find it necessary to give him any credit. He does, however, happen to be correct in that little snippet you pulled. The rest of the OpEd is garbage, IMO.

lil  ·  3394 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Some of the commentators share your opinion. I actually didn't read the Brooks article yet.

But my question involves what is teachable. Can introspection be taught? Perhaps taught is the wrong word... maybe prodded is better. Prodding people towards introspection might be the best we can do.

nowaypablo  ·  3396 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    You come to understand that most people are neither for you nor against you; they are thinking about themselves.

If only everyone realized this. This was one of the most substantial things I've been conscious of in the last two years; an element of maturity for sure.

ironpotato  ·  3387 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I actually just said this same thing to a girl I go to class with who was having some social anxiety issues. I hope it helped, I really do.