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kleinbl00  ·  3817 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Hubski Update: This time it's personal

I'm not sure that I will use this.

I will say that I got all excited because that meant I could ignore qz.com but follow qz.com.thenewgreen.

But I can't, 'cuz you aren't doing the same thing with domains.

I will also say I had to click around for 20 minutes to figure out where my ignored domains were.





mk  ·  3817 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm interested to see if you decide to do so over time. In your use case, I could see the point I made to Aeiri applying:

    One thing I have also considered is how this plays into scaling. The conventional wisdom says that as tags grow more popular, the ratio of quality content will fall. However, what if I really want to get great #politics posts even after hundreds of users are submitting to it? Previously, I would have had to follow #politics, and filter an ever-increasingly large swath of users (in entirety, not just their politics posts) to cull out the chaff. It is a race, that eventually I would lose. Now, I have the option to browse #politics, find the best users submitting to it, and follow their personal politics tags. With this approach, my politics feed doesn't degrade over time. Of course, I need to work if I want new voices, but I won't have to be constantly filtering users to have a quality politics feed.

    Of course, for quieter tags, I can take the opposite approach: filtering a personal tag or two might be all it takes to keep the overall tag quality, and I need't filter out those users wholesale. In that respect, we now have two kinds of filtering: content-specific, and user-specific.

The presentation is wanting with regards to the repetition, however. It's pretty clear there is some consensus there.

    I will also say I had to click around for 20 minutes to figure out where my ignored domains were.

Good point. That info should be in the same place where the moderation tools are when you visit someone else's profile.

kleinbl00  ·  3817 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I can see the use, it's just not an approach I've taken before. Hang on...

Okay. It wouldn't occur to me to follow #relationships, but #relationships.nowaypablo maybe. We'll try that. He's posted once, though. #relationships.theadvancedapes seems like a good "ignore" candidate simply because he's posted from Buzzfeed and collegehumor... but I've got things dialed to the point where I don't see buzzfeed and collegehumor.

So I wandered into a tag I've filtered - #feminism. And what I see is not so much that there are people who I want to filter out of #feminism, what I see is that there are lots of useful interesting articles in #feminism but I don't see any of them because they've been tagged #feminism. Which is stupid:

- I follow #grrrlski

- I follow _refugee_

- but if ref posts something in grrrlski and someone else tags it #feminism it vanishes.

I filtered #feminism because lorelai was using it on blast. She's long since gone. I can unfilter #feminism. But it's gonna be a lot handier for me to filter #feminism.jezibel than #feminism.userwhoisnowgone. I can ignore everything lorelai has to say - I'd really rather ensure that I don't have to deal with gawker anything.

Here's where it gets really dumb - for some reason, this post shows up under #feminism, which means I didn't see it, even though it isn't tagged #feminism.

So yeah. I can see my way towards greater granularity, but the greater granularity I want you ain't givin'.

mk  ·  3817 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Here's where it gets really dumb - for some reason, this post shows up under #feminism, which means I didn't see it, even though it isn't tagged #feminism.

That, is a riddle I need to solve. It would be great if we could identify post content so well, but that's not what is happening. I'm nearly certain it previously had the community tag feminism, and we are pulling it by that previous tag in the list.

kleinbl00  ·  3817 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That makes a lot of sense. I'm not sure what the best solution is... but it certainly illustrates the perils of filtering with wanton abandon.

thenewgreen  ·  3817 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I will say that I got all excited because that meant I could ignore qz.com but follow qz.com.thenewgreen.
-This is an interesting idea. It furthers the granularity with which you can tailor your experience. I wonder though, is this an edge case and would this functionality rarely be used?

I appreciate that you might like to follow my curated qz stream, but I do think I should point out that it was a steaming pile of qz that I posted that caused you to ignore it to begin with :)

syzo  ·  3817 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'd say: if this is the way tags end up being, I don't see why you wouldn't just allow it. Hell, allow to filter by all three: domain, user, tag.

Now there would be a representation nightmare, though.

ButterflyEffect  ·  3817 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Decided to see if I was "filtering" any domains. When you bring up your list of filtered/muted/hushed, that page still displays things as "ignored".

Just a little inconsistency but I figured I'd point it out mk.

mk  ·  3817 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Thanks. Will fix.