b_b thenewgreen can't remember who else -- positive or negative thoughts?
I'll not lie, I enjoy seeing a home-plate collision, it's extremely violent at times and probably horrendous for those involved, but it's exciting to witness live. I really don't think it sways the outcome at the plate too often so I don't mind it disappearing, but it's a very real part of the game that will now be gone. There was a couple of good ones in the Boston vs. Detroit series this year. I don't really mind though.
I'm in favor of the ban. I know there's a lot of excitement when a close play happens at home, but player safety is more important than any single close play. In fact, I wish they would extend it to ban spiking the fielder at second base on a potential double play ball. Tigers lost Infante for a month last year on a questionable play at second. I don't think there's any reason for it.
Takeout slides are tough to judge. Can't fault runners for sliding into the bag, but I would advocate for a ban that includes heavy penalties for sliding into a fielder who's on one side of it or the other -- or for sliding late over the bag into a fielder (Matt Holliday comes to mind). 99 percent of the time it's a you know it when you see it thing, so wouldn't be a huge change/problem.
Absolutely good news. I know it was meant to add to the excitement somewhat, and in previous years who could complain? Buster Posey's collision was incredibly exciting. Whole games can come down to it, but that shit is terrifyingly dangerous, and both the runner and the catcher knew it, and games shouldn't be decided by it. People are guaranteed to act like this is the end of baseball, but we know that's horseshit, just like when football banned horsecollaring. We'll look back in a few years and wonder why the hell it wasn't banned earlier.
I genuinely don't understand the "excitement" argument. I love a perfectly-executed hook slide or a late deke, but there's nothing exciting about big players running into each other. More often a beautiful throw/cutoff from the outfield is ruined when the rules allow a 215-pounder to smash the fuck out of a catcher who's had the ball for three seconds.
I agree with this. There is the "will he hold onto it" factor, but I have never enjoyed seeing a collision at home plate in a sport that's not meant to be a contact sport. There's not really a place for it, and I think this rule will encourage better baserunning decisions.
I agree with you. I'm an O's fan and watching everything that Manny did this year was way, way better than seeing them hit each other. It doesn't even have the 'power balance' argument that comes up for beaning the batter or fighting in hockey. It's just violence for violence's sake.
I can't say I care either. The question I have is how will this affect the game? Will there be less or more runs scored now that runners can only slide? I'm guessing less since it will be easier for the catcher to tag the slider since the catcher can just block the plate.