And I said yes.
I'm putting this podcast out here so you guys can hopefully listen to it and enjoy it, but I think this is also a great opportunity to talk about podcasting in general. I'm thinking about doing a podcast myself - artistically speaking, I think it's a fun evolving medium that doesn't have any real rules behind it. Speaking from a business angle it's a great way to cultivate an audience for future endeavors, like, say, publishing a book. (I will be self-publishing a book of poetry later on this year, probably much later - I'm having a friend illustrate it right now.)
I know thenewgreen does a podcast. Can you talk a little bit about your experience with the form? Why do you podcast? Who else on the Hub podcasts and what do you get out of it? Is it for fun or to self-promote?
If you aren't convinced about listening to the podcast I did yet, here's a brief run-down:
Master of the Arts is a comedy salon. It's a very casual podcast, think essentially a bunch of friends sit down after a couple of drinks and shoot the shit. I was brought on as a "master of the arts" or expert in poetry. This episode talks about a really interesting topic - which keeps getting revisited in between personal anecdotes, jokes and segues - the purpose of art. Is art vain? Do artists complete art in order to gain recognition, or to stroke their egos, or is it purely self-serving? I do think whenever you put your name on a thing it feeds your ego in some way. Maybe this is why I've struggled with whether to self-publish or not; I'm afraid something not vetted through a publishing house will eventually embarrass me instead of positively helping with my name and recognition out there in the world.
I hope you guys enjoy this. I'm posting this as much because I'd like your opinions on the subject of art and podcasting as because I think you might like to listen to the podcast (which, by the way, I'm told is very funny. I've just started in on it).
Later today I will probably have a blog post up as well and will post that here. I sometimes feel bad about posting original content (don't want to feel like a spammer!) and I see some new users have asked if it's okay to put it up. It may be appropriate to re-share this wonderful post on the subject by mk which keeps me feeling okay about posting.
We like people to post third party articles so that everyone can talk about them. We would kill to have Hubski be the place on the web where artists, writers, poets and thinkers of all sorts put their thoughts out there (whether directly posting them or linking to their personal site--just the same to us) for the world to see. We're not allowing you to post your stuff here. We're helping each other by encouraging you to do so. Big fukn difference.I sometimes feel bad about posting original content (don't want to feel like a spammer!)
Amen brother. Creatives of the world, let Hubski be your safe-haven. Our lamp is raised for you: Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
I must give credit to mk as he has referenced this poem in regards to Hubski before.
Bring them on! The more the merrier. There are a lot of great people that came from over there.
Being able to sustain that "small tight knit" feel while simultaneously growing is paramount. I think our architecture will serve us well.
I'm not to bad
:-)
What I think b_b is saying is that it's not that we are permitting you to do so, we are encouraging it. The world needs creatives! They should be celebrated. Will there be those that post their own content for monetary gain and with no thought to the Hubski community? Sure, but I just ignore those types and they disappear. But yes, please submit original content directly or via links.
Ah yeah that makes much more sense. Although I do think hubski shouldn't be the place where artists just showcase their work. There are better sites for that (behance, soundcloud, deviantart). I'd love to see this as a place to discuss works of creation, to find meaning in them and get a conversation with the artist.
I'd love to see this as a place to discuss works of creation, to find meaning in them and get a conversation with the artist.
exactly.
It's for fun! I absolutely LOVE it. I have the recording chops to be able to pull off some cool things, integration of sounds, music, some more complex editing here and there. It satisfies several things for me at once: 1. I get to create -it scratches a similar itch for me as making music does 2. I get to shine a light on Hubski 3. I get to interview people, smart people and I get to learn more about a topic I've learned a lot since beginning with my first podcast on Running -which steve put to video. I've learned that less of me is a good thing. If you listen to the progression of my work you will hear less and less of me in them. You all are far more interesting to me than me. In fact, this next one that steve is currently working on putting to video has next to no me in it. I like that you can take interviews, sound clips and music and construct a narrative. Even though people give you what they give you, you still have control of how you are going to present that. -This is F-U-N stuff. For example, when someone tells you in their answer that for them, writing is masturbatory you have a choice, do you highlight that, put some porn music behind it and make it super cheesy but possibly amusing, or do you let it sit there untouched and take it seriously, the way the person likely intended? You'll have to wait for the podcast to come out to see :-) Thanks for the plug for #tngpodcast. As for others that podcast, I know that revolution does. His podcast is understated but full of great information. I really enjoy them. edit: for what it's worth _refugee_, I very much look forward to hearing your podcasts. When I read the title of your post I thought to myself, "wow, it wasn't that long ago, and she hardly knows me..." ;)I know thenewgreen does a podcast. Can you talk a little bit about your experience with the form? Why do you podcast? Who else on the Hub podcasts and what do you get out of it? Is it for fun or to self-promote?
Ha! This particular podcast was recorded a long time ago, it may have been as long as six months ago. (Looking at my Facebook messages, it appears we recorded this in mid-May.) I'm still looking forward to hearing your #tngpodcast. What do you use to record? I'm going to be coming at this from basically no experience and no equipment except an iPhone. Isn't all creation kind of masturbatory? I touch on it a little in the podcast here. But I can understand why you and humano don't necessarily dig into it. I'm responding to your other post now, I had a Eureka! about my potential podcast today.When I read the title of your post I thought to myself, "wow, it wasn't that long ago, and she hardly knows me..."
The key is editing, learning how to cut out pauses etc. With what I do it is less about a straight interview and more about creating a narrative through editing.What do you use to record?
I have a mini music studio in my basement. I use a pro-tools rig, a couple different mics and as you know, I will input mp3/wav files sent by those I pose the questions to. I will also sometimes interview people in person using voicememo for iPhone or garageband on my mac, when I'm traveling.Isn't all creation kind of masturbatory?
Yes, and similarly, the release it provides is often excellent.
I've done podcasts before. It's fun because you kinda get to show your show how smart you are about a particular topic and whatnot. But if you're not careful, they can end up being hours long and a topic never ends up getting discussed. That was the problem I had with the people I did our podcast with, and it's why I had to leave. Also, doing online podcasts with people from different areas of the country/world make it really hard to mix and have clean sound throughout the podcast. I enjoy roundtables much more.
It keeps cutting out on me. Something about being unable to access the stream. Anyway, I made it half-way through. My impressions so far are: - It seems like the guys really like each other. - The podcast is comedy in the same way that talk radio sometimes labels itself as comedy - It's really unfocused and sprawling, which is great for conversations among friends - I like it when the topic is actually addressed, but the dudes are having too much fun with each other to address it for more than several seconds before going off on long-ass tangents about stuff that didn't happen to potential listeners outside of their social circle. - I think if they dropped the "comedy" angle and instead focused on their topic, it would be much more interesting for the listener. If they really are funny guys, that will come through. For me, as it is now, it's not coming through. I think that if they let the topic breathe, the jokes that they did make or witticisms or whatever, would stand out a lot more instead of getting lost in the tangle of voices that are currently competing for attention.
This is all really good advice based on what I heard. I listened for maybe 10 minutes. There's very rarely a time in my day when I have an hour to dedicate to a podcast, I will if it catches me and enthralls me, but otherwise I find it hard to believe that many people will dedicate that type of time. You're right, funny will come through but when it's forced through... it's painful. I guess what I do is less of this type of podcast and is heavily edited and constructed. Maybe mine could use more "interview, round-table" qualities infused in it? Food for thought. I'm excited to hear your podcast _refugee_ what style are you thinking it will be?
OK, so my podcast! thenewgreen and humanodon thanks to this post and discussion I had a little bit of a breakthrough today. I was thinking about what kind of podcast I'd like to do, which I had really been struggling with because frankly I'm not so in love with myself that I can just babble into a mike for an hour on a given topic. Can't even buy the idea of it. And humanodon had mentioned some of the potential flaws in this podcast I linked to today, which I think are clear and accurate. I started to think about all of my friends who are active in the local arts community, of whom there are several; on top of those I have some sort of extended network of artists I can tap into. So I think I wanna do an interview show with artists, "art" as a very loose term, writing or musicing or drawing or what-have-you. Comicing. I want a loose interpretation of artists. I figure I'll mostly showcase local artists but don't want to limit myself. I have a big enough network that I think I could find enough people just from the local area to do 3months worth of podcasts if I publish biweekly. I'm pretty excited! I have a work certification I'm studying for til November so I won't get anything off the ground this month. I'm also going to have to figure out recording, hosting, all that jazz. It's a lot. But I think I could have a lot of fun and maybe even increase upon my artistic network, plus I would be able to talk about stuff like "Is creating masturbatory?" and "What is writing?" (The latter half of the podcast has a recurring sort of theme, "Are we writing?" The latter half of the podcast might be better. I'm not sure. You still may have trouble getting into it. Up to you! But I do read a poem that you guys haven't seen during the break. You could fastforward and just listen to that ;) )
Yeah, I got a bit shut out of the conversation at first. They're all old friends. I don't disagree with your criticism at all. I think the guy showrunning this podcast is going for an extremely informal feel, modeling off of certain other podcasts he listens to, but I think depending on what you're looking for you can definitely find it alienating.