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nowaypablo  ·  962 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: I expect to die during the Great Migration

I'm an undergrad in my 20's but I also need to take it easy. Today a close friend of mine asked about the Army getting deployed to separate more families on the Mexican border and I had to respond while maintaining a lighthearted tone over a crushing disappointment/rage.





snoodog  ·  962 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It wouldn’t be a terrible deployment to go on. You are state side, and you won’t be killing civilians or aiding terrible dictators. Probably just marking targets and building out fencing. No worse than training. The only thing that would really suck is that rules of engagement would most likely not allow you to shoot back at any cartels that might be shooting at you, but that’s not new there are a lot of shitholes in Africa where that happens. Doubt you would have anything to do with actual migrants at worst you might have to escort an agent in to do the arrests and paperwork

nowaypablo  ·  962 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The units assigned to the border are sustainment/logistics, engineers (construction), and military police replicating the 2010 National Guard deployment of ~2000 or so. They are not shooting at anybody.

oyster  ·  962 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    The only thing that would really suck is that rules of engagement would most likely not allow you to shoot back at any cartels that might be shooting at you, but that’s not new there are a lot of shitholes in Africa where that happens.

I’m having a hard time connecting UN peacekeeping missions with American border patrol, how did you get here ?

snoodog  ·  962 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It’s not just the UN in Africa

oyster  ·  962 days ago  ·  link  ·  

No, but everybody I’ve ever spoken to who has a problem with R.O.E in Africa brings it up in relation to UN Peacekeepers, you’ve got another example that doesn’t involve them ?

snoodog  ·  962 days ago  ·  link  ·  

There are a lot of missions where US troops are training up local militias and friendly forces. We’re not really officially deployed there so if someone gets shot and shoots back it creates an incident. I’ve heard some stories from people ive casually had beers with of those going bad and not being able to shoot back at the hostile.

The border patrol mission would likely be too political to allow for an incident to occur.

oyster  ·  962 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    We’re not really officially deployed

Again not sure what you’re trying to say here. They’re deployed. Do you mean to say it’s not in the mainstream news like deployments in Iraq or Afghanistan are ?

kleinbl00  ·  962 days ago  ·  link  ·  

jesus.

Yeah I spent much of my early '20s fighting the urge to enlist and then as soon as they started stop-lossing people for the Iraq War I found myself going there but for the grace of God go I.

The United States has an unhealthy relationship with its armed forces. Between the out-of-sight/out-of-mind nature of Empire and the unquestioning hero worship of anyone who has ever worn a uniform we as a nation do not know what to do with the military.