Wikipedia summarizes the arguments for and against energy star nicely in the appliance section. I'm not entirely sure the program does anything useful except print stickers but I suppose standardized stickers are worth something too. I've got a pretty passionate hatered for "efficient" appliances though. Energy targets seem to encourage manufacturers to shittify a product core function and create toilets that don't dispose of shit, washers that barely wash, dryers that leave clothes slightly damp... etc. I'd rather just pay the extra energy cost and have things work correctly. I guarantee the most people aren't going to choose the damp setting on their dryer if there is a dry setting, but programs like energy star encourage manufacturers to only have the damp option. Another factor yet to be considered by the EPA and DOE is the overall effect of energy-saving requirements on the durability and expected service life of a mass-market appliance built to a consumer-level cost standard. For example, a refrigerator may be made more efficient by the use of more insulative spacing and a smaller-capacity compressor using electronics to control operation and temperature. However, this may come at the cost of reduced interior storage (or increased exterior mass) or a reduced service life due to compressor or electronic failures. In particular, electronic controls used on new-generation appliances are subject to damage from shock, vibration, moisture, or power spikes on the electrical circuit to which they are attached. Critics have pointed out that even if a new appliance is energy efficient, any consumer appliance that does not provide customer satisfaction, or must be replaced twice as often as its predecessor contributes to landfill pollution and waste of natural resources used to construct its replacement.[19]As of early 2008, average refrigerators need 20% savings over the minimum standard. Dishwashers need at least 41% savings. Most appliances as well as heating and cooling systems have a yellow EnergyGuide label showing the annual cost of operation compared to other models. This label is created through the Federal Trade Commission and often shows if an appliance is Energy Star.[16] While an Energy Star label indicates that the appliance is more energy efficient than the minimum guidelines, purchasing an Energy Star labeled product does not always mean one is getting the most energy efficient option available. For example, dehumidifiers that are rated under 25 US pints (12 L) per day of water extraction receive an Energy Star rating if they have an energy factor of 1.2 (higher is better), while those rated 25 US pints (12 L) to 35 US pints (17 L) per day receive an Energy Star rating for an energy factor of 1.4 or higher. Thus a higher-capacity but non-Energy Star rated dehumidifier may be a more energy efficient alternative than an Energy Star rated but lower-capacity model.[17] The Energy Star program's savings calculator has also been criticized for unrealistic assumptions in its model that tend to magnify savings benefits to the average consumer.[18]
1) Dual flush toilets. You're right - the water-saving ones suck ass. The dual-flush fix every problem water efficient toilets have. I say this as someone who has had to buy three toilets recently. 2) The problem washers face these days is low-phosphorus detergent, added to reduce algal blooms in municipal waterworks. A modern, efficient front-loader kicks the shit out of anything that's come since, and if you throw in a little oxy-clean you're rawkin'. I say this as someone who has bought three washing machines in 18 months. 3) It's tough not buying a sensor dryer and they get stuff perfectly dry. I say this as someone who has bought 3 dryers in 18 months. None of this has anything to do with energy star - this is federally mandated while energy star is a voluntary standard.
Is that link not a funny color for you? 'cuz for me it links to a press release, which leads to the DOE's energy appliance website, which links to standards and test procedures, which gives you a pretty good plaintext interpretation of 10 CFR 430.32 (h). Product class Combined energy factor (lbs/kWh) i. Vented Electric, Standard (4.4 ft3 or greater capacity) 3.73 ii. Vented Electric, Compact (120V) (less than 4.4 ft3 capacity) 3.61 iii. Vented Electric, Compact (240V) (less than 4.4 ft3 capacity) 3.27 iv. Vented Gas 3.30 v. Ventless Electric, Compact (240V) (less than 4.4 ft3 capacity) 2.55 vi. Ventless Electric, Combination Washer-Dryer 2.08
Additionally, if you have to double flush or run the dryer for another 15 minutes, it kind of defeats the original purpose, cause now you've probably used more resources than what was originally saved. Maybe. I dunno. I'm not an engineer.I've got a pretty passionate hatered for "efficient" appliances though. Energy targets seem to encourage manufacturers to shittify a product core function and create toilets that don't dispose of shit, washers that barely wash, dryers that leave clothes slightly damp... etc. I'd rather just pay the extra energy cost and have things work correctly. I guarantee the most people aren't going to choose the damp setting on their dryer if there is a dry setting, but programs like energy star encourage manufacturers to only have the damp option.
That's not fair! We want science to decide! If the EPA says the EPA is doing a good job, who are we to cast doubt? Methodology: put blue stickers on one-quarter of the products judged more efficient. When people buy those products, credit the stickers for helping save energy. Imagine the emissions if those products didn't have blue stickers. Surely no one would trust manufacturers to advertise efficiency and lower costs to customers. So how does the EPA judge energy efficiency? There's a clue for those who read below the fold: "In 2010, workers at the Government Accountability Office posed as product developers and got the Energy Star label for fictitious products." Another news source has some alternative facts."This is a very successful program," he says. "I don't know what more one could want out of a government program." In fact, the 25-year-old Energy Star program appears to be targeted simply because it's run by the federal government.
In 2014, the EPA estimates the program helped American consumers and businesses save $34 billion and prevent more than 300 million metric tons of greenhouse gas emissions.
In 2014, millions of consumers and 16,000 partners tapped the value of ENERGY STAR and achieved impressive financial and environmental results. Their investments in energy-efficient technologies and practices reduced utility bills by $34 billion and will continue to provide cost savings for years to come.
For instance, side-by-side and French-door refrigerators can get Energy Stars even though they use a lot more electricity than do fridges with freezers on the top.
critics say the program doesn't update its standards quickly enough, so at times the vast majority of the dishwashers, televisions or computers on the market display the stars.
Another problem is that the government lets manufacturers test their own products, and sometimes the results are misleading. For instance, when Consumers Union tested some Energy Star French-door refrigerators, it found they used 70 percent more power than the manufacturer claimed. "What we came to see in our testing was that some of the manufacturers actually turned off the cooling to the ice and water dispenser, and by virtue of that were claiming to be Energy Star," Connelly says.
A lot of the energy that televisions use goes to make them bright, and Katzmaier says manufacturers were setting the default modes on the sets unusually dim to qualify for stars.
This week, the Energy Department's inspector general released a report that agreed with some of these criticisms. It found that the department has not verified that products with the Energy Star label actually meet the specifications for earning the rating.
... which is why they've required third parties to do the testing since 2011.So how does the EPA judge energy efficiency? There's a clue for those who read below the fold: "In 2010, workers at the Government Accountability Office posed as product developers and got the Energy Star label for fictitious products."
Costing 0.001% of the defense budget, cutting energy star is a strange place to cut the fat. If it saved only 1% of what it claims to save Americans a year than the program would still have a net benefit to consumers. Bitch and whine about energy star all you like but you probably shouldn't do it on the basis of any kind of cost benefit scheme. The energy efficiency sector is filled with both well intentioned and malevolent bull shit. I have friends in the building efficiency side who can't believe the publicly funded waste. The most real economics I did in college was studying the take back effect for the local public sector energy efficiency outfit. Their numbers were full of shit, entirely based on engineering models. They lived in fear that someone would someday actually monitor a large number of thermostats before an after improvements and watch 7% if their predicted savings go away. 7% is a big part of what make many if these projects work out on paper. I knew nothing about the energy star program until today and a little bit about government energy efficiency programs in general. I don't think I'm in anyway prone to expect the best of them. I think energy star is probably a worthwhile program, problems and all.
The defense budget was not always so large. Making excuses for bad programs, entertaining arguments that spending more will fix problems, and ignoring evidence are some of the ways it grows. I am perplexed when you say I should not use a cost-benefit analysis, right after you use a cost-benefit analysis. How should we decide whether this is a good program, if we don't weigh the pros and cons? Actually, though you say "net benefit," yours is a benefit analysis and does not consider any costs. The Americans who are potentially saving energy costs are also the taxpayers who pay for the program. You provide no evidence that the program saves even 1% of what EPA claims. Should we cross our fingers and hope it's true? Blue stickers do not save any energy. Presumably they are meant to help consumers select more energy-efficient products than they would without the stickers. Do we have any evidence that this goal is met? Does it work often enough to balance the times the stickers are applied to less-efficient appliances, leading to increased energy consumption? NPR worries that the "vast majority" of products display blue stickers. Sears sells a lot of appliances, and the online catalog has an "Energy Star Compliant" filter. YES NO 76 84 Dryers (under $1000) 49 42 Dryers (over $1000) 278 67 Refrigerators (French door) 129 131 Refrigerators (top freezer) 166 193 Refrigerators (under $1000) 406 173 Refrigerators (over $1000) For appliances on which blue stickers are not practically automatic, there is a pattern of "gold plating" in which the Energy Star is bundled with additional features on more expensive models. French door refrigerators average over $2000, are less energy efficient, and they are 80% Energy Star. Top freezer models average below $800, are more energy efficient, and they are 50% Energy Star. Are we still saving? EPA has moved to third-party certifications rather than letting manufacturers make the call. Many of these compliance companies signed the letter to keep Energy Star alive. It's a voluntary program for manufacturers. What then, is the role of the EPA? Is it to set the standards? Other organizations can set standards. Is it to police the use of the blue stickers, which anyone can buy on eBay? Is it something else? I have a bias against government programs, which made me suspect that Energy Star is probably not a worthwhile program even before I learned anything about it. Do you have a different reason to think that it is probably a worthwhile program?0.001% of the defense budget
If it saved only 1% of what it claims to save Americans a year than the program would still have a net benefit to consumers.
Energy Star Compliant
294 16 Dishwashers
156 34 Washers
131 130 Dryers
500+ 371 Refrigerators