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kleinbl00  ·  791 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Jeff Kunzler: Against Minimalism A Plea for Cyberpunk

My fundamental beef against Steampunk is that it celebrates an era of elitism and social inequality through the false over-ornamentation of everyday objects.

My beef against giant chunky phones is they have to fit in a pocket. I mean, I had one of these.

Which, granted, was smaller than one of these.

And hey. You throw that thing in one of these:

And it's bigger than one of these.




user-inactivated  ·  790 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I have a three or four year old smart phone that I'm waiting patiently to die so I can replace it without feeling guilty. The other day when I was thinking about replacing it I remembered phones from the early '00s. Candy bar phones, flip phones, those nifty little sliders. Half of those things were pretty cheap, but the other half lasted forever, andany had nifty features like built in bluetooth, the ability to play MP3s, and even a camera of you were willing to splurge. The form factor was as much of a selling point as anything else, they were fashion statements almost. Now we have all of the features we could want and none of the cool form factors. It's nice in a way, cause we don't have to make anywhere near as many compromises. Still, I kind of miss buttons.

elizabeth  ·  790 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Hell yeah they were fashion statements. This was the coolest thing ever:

kleinbl00  ·  790 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That was back when all the Kool Kidz went over to kowsun night market in Thailand to get their phones. You coulda underwritten your vlogger career with phone export... which would have been good 'cuz Youtube didn't exist.

kleinbl00  ·  790 days ago  ·  link  ·  
user-inactivated  ·  790 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yes! Something exactly like that. Man, I hope that's still around when this phone kicks it.

kleinbl00  ·  790 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Grab one now. I'm pretty sure the Blackberry Priv is going to be the last phone with a keyboard ever made. They came out about six months ago for $800 and nobody bought one.

user-inactivated  ·  790 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    They came out about six months ago for $800 and nobody bought one.

People just don't know a good thing when they see it, huh? I'm entertaining the thought of getting one now.

kleinbl00  ·  790 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Well, for $800 it's a no-f'ng way phone. For $300 it's a maybe phone. You gotta figure if they could have made money at $300, they would have sold them for $300.

I'd probably have one if I wasn't planning on going to Fi.

b_b  ·  789 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm on Fi right now. Don't know what your time frame is, but I'm sure it's worth waiting until the new HTC phone comes out (forget what they're calling it--not Nexus). The Nexus 5X is ok, but it's kinda cheap. Having never seen the HTC phone, I can still almost guarantee it will be nicer. Also, you get $150 discount on the handset when you sign up for Fi. You may already know that, but it's not heavily advertised if you just go on the Nexus page. I almost bought the phone then signed up for Fi, because I didn't know any better.

kleinbl00  ·  789 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yeah, been looking at that. Good tip about the 5X 'cuz I was going to saddle my wife with one. Apparently the specs between the Nexus 6P and the "Google Pixel XL" are pretty damn similar so I was thinking of jumping on it... but if the 5X is plastick-ey we'll hold off.

Assuming my wife's iPhone survives another month.

A friend tried to order the new iPhone in blacker-than-black. It wouldn't let him. "mostly black" was due end of November. Ridiculous.

OftenBen  ·  791 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The slaves in the apple aesthetic (God I hate myself for using that word) are Chinese instead of Cornish/Welsh, and are better concealed. At least Victorian aristocracy didn't pretend to give a damn about the proles. The Apple aesthetic is the inverse of the over-ornamentation, no?

I'd happily take a TI-85 sized phone if it meant a few days of battery life, and a high capacity hard drive.

kleinbl00  ·  791 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The Apple aesthetic is actually the Dieter Rams aesthetic and, on its own, is a useful and worthy design philosophy. Where Apple fails is that 3, 5 and 7 have superseded 1, 2 and 4. This is because Apple is more interested in shit looking cool than in shit being cool because, in my opinion, they have reached a point where they will not convert more people to the fold and are instead attempting to maintain marketshare through paeans to the past.

The iPod - as originally conceived - was revolutionary.

Note that there are five buttons and a scroll wheel, which allows the user to parse an XML file and operate on it in two directions. It gives visual feedback and tactile feedback. It has a hardware lock switch, an industry-standard charging port and a display large enough to accomplish its designed task and very little more.

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