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comment by tacocat
tacocat  ·  3480 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Reddit changes community guideliness, bans subreddits.

Hubski is very small compared to reddit. If there was new content here more frequently I'd totally jump ship. That's what I did from digg to reddit when reddit was nothing more than a joke among digg users.

Reddit has shitloads of new stories every minute. Not that that's a good thing most times but if you throw enough shit at a wall. If there were 4 new, interesting documentaries posted here every day I'd write off reddit like a bad check. Reddit's only saving grace is volume and they seem to have pissed off their based pretty severely. Over things their base didn't know existed when they woke up but are now a rallying cry. It's exactly the type of response I expect and it might even slightly affect active user base.





insomniasexx  ·  3480 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  

I agree with you. I wish there was more content too. I try to post all I can but I have a problem with posting things I don't find like..super awesome interesting.

I think there just needs to be generally more people (and I'd love more diversity—I feel like we have a lot of writers and musicians but not a lot of designers...or brain surgeons...or veterinarians....)

It's sort of a catch-22. If we had more people there would be more content (even though it might be shittier?) But, if we don't have awesome content, we don't get people. We don't market or advertise (besides STICKERS!) because every time we've even thought about it, we've realized it may be detrimental to the community. I mean, if all of fatpeoplehate came here, I think it might be a bad thing.

All I can say is keep posting, keep commenting, invite people who you think would be awesome, mention Hubski around town, and we'll get there. That's what I do (and try to do better everyday) anyways.

kleinbl00  ·  3480 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You don't have the infrastructure for more people.

Hubski, steady-state, is many many interconnected groups of people that interact or not based on their interests. It becomes a fluid mixer. You need the ability to keep your interactions under Dunbar's Number while also opening up your field of play to the horizon.

User follow keeps your true interactions under 150 or so, and it works quite well. In order to go bigger you need subject affinity (tags, search, etc) such that your "crowd" can move freely about the "map."

until then, you will have one crowd in one corner of the map and anyone who wanders out will not be followed.

Build out search, build out tags, build out the other axis and Hubski can expand to the horizon.

thenewgreen  ·  3480 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yes to all of that. forwardslash if you have search done by tomorrow night, drinks are on me and mk.

kleinbl00  ·  3480 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Serious question: are you guys thinking this is a 10-100 man-hour problem or a 100-1000 man-hour problem? Because there's your need for monetization: I suspect that if every active user donated $50, we still wouldn't have offered up enough coin to breach the "insult" barrier.

I'm no programmer but I have a reasonable understanding as to why search is hard. It's one of many unwieldy problems that are going to rear their heads as the site evolves. In my opinion, there's a lot of real tricky coding that needs to happen and you're either asking someone to take several hundred hours on the chin or you're rolling a Miata's worth of coin into the problem. Which is great when there's enough love or money to go around but we all know that never lasts.

user-inactivated  ·  3479 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Comment threads are one of the worst cases for text search, because you're comparing short texts (query strings) to short texts (comments). There are ways to make it work, but most of them involve crunching some very big matrices periodically, and you don't want to do that if you don't have some big iron to do it on.

thenewgreen  ·  3480 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm no coder either so you're asking the wrong fella. Buuuut... It's been a LONG MOTHERFUCKING TIME COMING and I know that / is no slouch and has a strong work ethic, so I'm fairly confident it's a big endeavor. That said, this was one of those years where each of us on the Hubski team has had some major life changing, big stuff go down and we aren't where I'd like us to be developmentally. I don't think any of us are happy with that. We had some big goals. But... we are picking up steam.

Edit: Also, it's worth noting that what we do have is pretty substantial. It's over 4 years worth of tweaks, updates, new functionality etc. That's something that shouldn't be overlooked but is easy to.

I want search and I want an API. YESTERDAY. I'd like to give those things to you all (and myself as a user) and then add a donation button. The donation button will help with stickers, server costs, other swag and maybe, maybe, just maybe we can get forwardslash some help. But by all accounts, he's making some good progress building us a functional database to search... and beyond that it's above my pay grade. Basically though, we're asking forwardslash to take it on the chin. But, all of us on team-hubski do this. We don't run this place for the money, that's for damned sure.

tacocat  ·  3480 days ago  ·  link  ·  

There's probably not even enough quality content generated in a day. Most reddit posts are pictures or some stupid meta bullshit. I want a better reddit but when you strip out most of reddit you probably aren't left with much.

I'm subscribed to like 10 subreddits right now and I could have easily missed this news. Subscribing to ten reddits is very OK. Not great, very whatever but fun occasionally. But there always seems to be new bullshit I don't click on, so hey, there's that.

coffeesp00ns  ·  3480 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    but I have a problem with posting things I don't find like..super awesome interesting.

And that's why I come back all the time - Quality over quantity, every single time. It would be nice if there was more content on hubski, but I refuse to share anything I don't think is 100% worthy of merit and discussion.

It's almost like we're... thoughtful about it (to hearken back to one of hubski's slogans). Thoughtful about what we share, what we say when we share and discuss it, and who we share hubski with to continue to have quality content.