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thenewgreen  ·  3384 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Do you wear a watch? Why?

You know what, you can't have your cake and eat it too. How dare Dan Gilbert sell home loans from downtown Detroit when people don't have homes? How dare anyone sell anything in Detroit when so many have so little? As for using Detroit as a brand, I never, ever think of "black people" when people reference the "grit" of Detroit, but I do think of hard working people, black, white, brown etc. As you know, Detroit was once the epicenter of business and culture, I think brands like Shinola are harkening to that. Brands like "Made in Detroit" are "exploiting" the work ethic that was synonymous with pre-labor union craziness Detroit. "Built Ford Tough" is the same way. The city was once known for building the highest quality machines in the world. How dare a brand try to hitch it's wagon to that. Actually, what they're doing is rebuilding that wagon and to be pissed about that is fucked up.





user-inactivated  ·  3384 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Wait, "pre-labor union" craziness? Wasn't union participation at an all-time high in the 50s and 60s?

thenewgreen  ·  3384 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yes, but I think the unions themselves started getting crazy.

b_b  ·  3375 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It's getting better. The justice department just ended their quarter century oversight of the teamsters this past week (sarcasm apparent, I hope).

kleinbl00  ·  3376 days ago  ·  link  ·  

IATSE member here. We recently had our leadership replaced, like the Pope gutting an errant abbey during the dark ages. Shit be off-the-hook crazy.

Why yes, I am plowing through Name of the Rose, thanks for asking.

thenewgreen  ·  3375 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Were you able to abscond any of the riches from that errant abbey? I have had a number of "jobs" over the years leading up to my life in Business Development and it occurs to me that I've never belonged to a union.

user-inactivated  ·  3384 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Mmm. Where do you live?

b_b  ·  3384 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Dude, I think you're putting some words in my mouth there. All I said was that their ad campaign was lame, while also saying that I like their products (what I should have said was that I like their watches; their bikes are hella lame). It's a pretty big stretch from there to me being pissed off about anyone making money in Detroit.

thenewgreen  ·  3384 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    their audacity to sell $400 tennis shoes on a block where people starve and freeze routinely
is what I was responding to. Are there restaurants on that street too? Stores that sell blankets? That would be criminal.
b_b  ·  3384 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Ah. That. I owe you a clarification. Shinola maintains a store in Detroit, but only for cred. They don't intend to make money off it. They make money off selling things in, for example, NYC. Their "flagship" store in midtown detroit exists solely to import celebrities to do photo shoots and other marketing events. It feels like they're making fun of the neighborhood. At least it did in the beginning. I will give them credit that they have recently donated a bunch of money to build a green space near their store. That I applaud.

b_b  ·  3384 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Also, I'll add that that watch looks fuckin sharp on you. If I still wore watches, I'd go that route myself. I suppose now that I wear a gold ring everyday that I might as well embrace jewelry.

thenewgreen  ·  3384 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Well thank you pal, I dig it. As for the ghetto chic, it's a bit derivative don't you think?

Did you go white gold or yellow?

b_b  ·  3384 days ago  ·  link  ·  

YES. Derelicte is exactly what ghetto chic is to me, only it's a thing now and not Will Ferrell being hilarious.

Yellow gold all the way. It's fat, 18kt, and kinda flashy.