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lil  ·  4168 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Who Would You Invite to the Dinner Party of Writers?

OKAY the question is out there then. Let's answer it. But I'm not sure your dinner party would work out.

Who do you think would be more cynical about the future of humanity, Douglas Adams or Kurt Vonnegut? I think Kenneth Koch would rather be around more positive people. He might not go.





_refugee_  ·  4167 days ago  ·  link  ·  

> I think Kenneth Koch would rather be around more positive people. He might not go.

Simple solution. Don't tell any of them who else is coming!

user-inactivated  ·  4167 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Simple solution. Don't tell any of them who else is coming!

Next stop, And Then There Were None!

Speaking of which, I would invite Stephanie Meyer, Dan Brown and EL James...

_refugee_  ·  4167 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Do you typically require a guest list before you agree to attend a dinner party?

lil  ·  4167 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You do require a guest list if you have numerous blood feuds on the go.

The guest has a right to ask who else is coming.

You would think inviting people from different centuries would avoid problems, but apparently not according to Eugenides:

    First I call Shakespeare. “Who else is coming?” Shakespeare asks.

    “Tolstoy,” I answer.

    “I’m busy that night,” Shakespeare says.

These days, you email the list to everyone. You do not blindcopy. That gives all the attendees a chance to research all the other guests, so that at an opportune moment, one might say, "I see you own a walnut farm in Uttarakhand, India. I hear business is exploding." (At least that's what I do whenever possible.)
_refugee_  ·  4167 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I kind of think it would be fun to invite people who wouldn't necessarily get along but who would drink and brawl and argue!

humanodon  ·  4168 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Maybe, but I think Koch was really curious about people and the human experience. I mean, why else write books on how to teach children how to write poems? I don't see a real contradiction between cynicism and positivity. I for one, have been characterized as an upbeat cynic on numerous occasions. Yes, we are burdened with the errors of our forefathers and ourselves and are lucky to have stumbled so far, but what luck and what incredible roller coasters we fall onto!

All three deal with the particular weirdness of being a human being through a well-conveyed sense of humor and had remarkable insights on what it was to be human, not only in their time, but human, period. While they might not accept invitations to a dinner (especially one held by me) I think that if they were all in a room together, that there would at least be some interesting conversation.

Vonnegut's The Sirens of Titan and Adam's Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy both contain elements explored in Koch's own work, notably One Train May Hide Another where the life reveals itself in unexpected and remarkable ways. I'm sure there are many other connections to be drawn as well and unless I am very mistaken, I'd guess that each are fairly familiar with at least the gist of the other's work.

lil  ·  4168 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I love Kenneth Koch - I've said this before in these posts. You are right about his wonderful book, Wishes, Lies, and Dreams. Are you familiar with his book about teaching senior citizens in a nursing home to write poetry. I believe the book is called I Never Told Anybody. (1978)

I'd definitely like to have Homer (if he existed) to dinner. Just picked up a new copy of The Iliad to use as I make my way through mk's Odyssey. If you go to this link, start at the beginning.

humanodon  ·  4167 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm not, but I'll have to check it out! Some of those names from dim history are bound to have been interestingpeople.