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JTHipster  ·  4016 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Should I Quit College?

Think of the tradeoff.

You quit now, you have no degree, three years of debt. You stick it out, you have four years worth of debt and a degree. Either way you have debt, but this way you have a piece of paper.

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BLOB_CASTLE  ·  4016 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Exactly, it's just a piece of paper. Not that I wish to hoard money, but the CEO of the company I work for buys a $200,000 car every month and didn't go to school. So even if I didn't finish and did end up wanting to become a money hoarder, the potential exists to do so.

Yes. There hasn't been anyone around who understands my anger/frustration.

JTHipster  ·  4016 days ago  ·  link  ·  

There is that. I dunno.

I like money too but I'd rather feel like I'm doing something with my life than contributing to a business. I suppose that's at the core of the situation, really: is the thing you are doing something that you love?

I hate college. I really do. Its tedious. I hate my Gen Ed courses, I hate busywork in courses I otherwise like, I hate having to gamble on whether or not the professor is going to know less than me on the subject every time I take a class. Its frustrating. But, I really do like what I've been able to see of Communications, far more than I've liked history. And if I want to get in to the field, I know that at least some of the courses I take will be useful.

So what if I end up poor? I don't have kids. I don't have a girlfriend, and even if I did if she would dump me for having no money then I wouldn't want to date her in the first place. My one ex is down in California with no job, but she's happy because she's doing what she likes.

I'd love to get in to editing, for TV or film, doesn't matter. There's busywork on the way but an education is going to help, even if its just another hurdle. And if that saddles me with debt, well, so what? I'd rather be in debt than spend the rest of my life doing something I dislike.

If you want to chat in messages on anything more private I'm all ears man.

BLOB_CASTLE  ·  4016 days ago  ·  link  ·  

We haven't quite gotten personal enough for private messages I'd say. But when the time comes for tears, we'll head that way. Plus, the more others see about what I'm thinking will allow them to provide a more specific answer.

This is my favorite Alan Watts Speech. Especially what he says at 1:14.

I don't want to be poor though. I want nothing to do with money. With lack of an attachment and dependence to money comes wealth in life I think.

_refugee_  ·  4014 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Hey, B_C, I would hasten to point out here that the times are changing. I work in the finance industry at a pretty advanced, let's say, mid-level position. My immediate bosses in the past years have been assistant vice presidents or VPs and up. This sounds like I'm a pretentious douchehole talking out my ass to sound important, I'm sorry, and I'm not.

So anyway, in this position, several of my co-workers have not had college degrees. They are older (50s) and they have essentially hit the ceiling, partially due to their lack of degree(s). I can say this with certainty because I am in my mid-twenties and I was hired into this position precisely because I had a college degree.

Yes, that's right - I'm mid-twenties and I'm starting out at a place where other people are ending their careers because of one stupid little piece of paper. My degree isn't even relevant to the work that I am doing! But there is a big push to get these mid-level degrees filled with people who have diplomas, as opposed to the people who have been entrenched in the system for 20 years, worked their way up to good earnings, and are now at a ceiling.

In all honesty, that is that CEO of the company you know. He has managed to work his way up during a time in which college degrees were not so important. Think about it; he was probably part of the 'trench warfare' in that company in the 80s, when a college degree was much rarer and a more significant deal. I highly doubt that you would be able to replicate his sort of success today with the ubiquity of college degrees and the growing requirement of employers that the people they interview have this requirement.

BLOB_CASTLE  ·  4013 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I understand what you're saying. I'm so gung-ho about my dream that I am perhaps letting my vision of the future become jaded. I'm not necessarily allowing for the possibility of joining the system to come true. In part I do that intentionally. In not preparing for that situation I'm even more determined to make my dream a reality.