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Quatrarius  ·  520 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: These moments totally happened at the GOP primary debate

he thinks that vaccines cause autism, brother!

pro vaccine safety is a clear dogwhistle. you don't need to be pro safety on something that is near-universally safe. if you describe yourself as "pro armchair safety", that means that somebody's putting spikes on the chairs.

the tactic of hiding behind "I'm just asking questions, further research is needed into the issue" is cowardly and is made without evidence on the actual position being taken. there is no evidence that vaccines cause or are linked to autism, but RFK JR has been saying it for decades. now he's repeating the canard that endocrine disruptors in the water are causing feminization and transgender-ization. there's no evidence that this is the case. why is he suggesting that "research should be done?" to seed the ground for calling transness artificial, man-made, and a medical illness.

if i come out on stage and suggest that being molested as a child actually has hidden health benefits and that further research should be done, i don't get to say that I'm just asking questions. it would be obvious that i am a pedophile trying to drum up support. but it's easy to see that pedophilia is wrong, and apparently much harder to see that when it's about autists and trannies





thenewgreen  ·  520 days ago  ·  link  ·  

This conversation started with someone asking why I thought Kennedy is a dem. I see no reason to think he isn’t based on his policy proposals. Anti war, anti surveillance state, pro free speach etc.

Re vaccination, he’s admitted to being fully vaccinated and having vaccinated his children. From one of his town halls:

    I’ve never been anti-vaccine, and I’ve said that hundreds and hundreds of times but it doesn’t matter,” Kennedy told NewsNation host Elizabeth Vargas in a town hall Wednesday. “Because that is a way of silencing me. Using a pejorative to describe me is a way of silencing me or marginalizing me.”

    He continued: “We have a corrupt federal agency. It’s lying to the AMA, to you, to all of those agencies and all of the doctors. They believe them. Those agencies are controlled by pharma. That is the problem and that’s what I’m trying to end as president.”

He’s not wrong Re the FDA/Pharma revolving door.

Quatrarius  ·  520 days ago  ·  link  ·  

if he's fully vaccinated and so are his kids, and he also believes vaccines are unsafe and cause autism, etc, doesn't that make him both a hypocrite and an idiot?

using a pejorative to describe somebody? it's just what he continually and publically espouses. it's not a pejorative, it's a descriptor. if you think it makes you marginalized to have what you say be described, then that should tell you something about what you're saying

user-inactivated  ·  520 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Because every other Democrat thinks that parroting insane conspiracy theories is disqualifying.

And asking honestly, even if Kennedy's other policies were standard Democrat fare, what about him is better than Biden ?? How is this less baggage ??

am_Unition  ·  520 days ago  ·  link  ·  

A great example of conspiracy theories being disqualifying for dems is how nobody took Marianne Williamson seriously once all the "healing crystals" stuff hit the fan. And afaik, that was the only conspiracy-adjacent thing she espoused.

For the republican party, believing in conspiracy is a requirement. The crazier, the better. I had to look up RFK's policies, because he never talks about them. They're relatively democrat-centrist, from what I can find. Some even sound progressive. But all he talks about are conspiracies. THAT is republican. And so is being "anti-war" while also advocating to bomb and/or invade Mexico. I'd love to hear RFK Jr. be asked that question.

I can add legit source links to this thread all day. We can't just watch the candidates lie to us in debates or interviews and trust everyone on the basis of how charismatic they are.