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steve  ·  1203 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: People recovering from Covid may have ‘substantial’ drop in intelligence

headlines like this send me into existential crisis... and I'm not over stating or being dramatic. It's like I'm getting my death sentence in slow motion... like we know the end from the beginning and makes me wonder why I would go on with certain things in life.

ugh.

mike... is this my moose?





kleinbl00  ·  1203 days ago  ·  link  ·  

This is not worthy of an existential crisis. It's worthy of concern, but not a ZOMG freakout.

You have to keep in mind that "IQ" is not a robust metric. Lack of sleep blows big holes in performance on standardized tests. Distraction is worse. Any sort of infection can lower IQ.

COVID-19 infection does cause measurable gray matter reduction. But then, so does drinking. I'm not a fan of gray matter reduction, but most of these studies pretty much say

debilitating disease is debilitating

Which should hardly be surprising. Now - is that debilitation permanent? Transitory? Profound? Trivial? Well again, it's a "novel" coronavirus which doesn't mean "exciting and fun" it means "new under the sun" and we're still deep in the fog of war.

Get vaccinated. Helps.

mike  ·  1203 days ago  ·  link  ·  

When I was on chemo, the drugs would keep me awake for 3 days at a time. I lost the ability to make sense of numbers, alarming for me as a mathematician who can remember tons of numbers because each is like the face of an old friend. I sometimes lost the ability to make sense of time, I could not remember if something happened a day before, a week before, or months, and I could not sequence past events. steve made a short video about that strange experience.

After treatment, I slept terribly for a year and my thinking and memory were always foggy. Lack of sleep make a huge impact on my intelligence during that period (however I was extremely production and creative during that time as well. Weird.) I had resigned myself to my condition as my new normal, but my new new normal came around to be my old normal.

steve  ·  1203 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm vaxxed up... it just hit me wrong on a day when I was already wrong.. if that makes sense.

kleinbl00  ·  1203 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Totally does. "get vaccinated" is kinda the way I end all discussions like this 'cuz fuckin' hell what else can you say.

mike  ·  1203 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It is a kind moose. You can see him coming from far away, which can give great clarity. In any case, should you get covid and have your IQ drop a standard deviation, at least it would give the rest of us a chance to catch up!

steve  ·  1203 days ago  ·  link  ·  

said the smart guy to the dumb guy. The only thing you could catch up to me in is a coke drinking contest.