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comment by thenewgreen

I wish I could hear the rest of the speech. Context is king, he could go on to say that the current welfare system does nothing to prop up those 47%.... or maybe not but still, it did end the speech rather conspicuously mid sentence.

Either way, this video isn't good if you're a Romney supporter.





b_b  ·  4454 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The fallacy here is that the 47% who don't pay federal income tax are the poorest 47%. This isn't true at all. Someome with a high salary and a lot of deductions may pay less than a guy making $30k who doesn't itemize. Besides most if the 47% still pay payroll tax. Its a false argument in every imaginable way.

mk  ·  4454 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Although there is plenty of that going around, it's not as if it were part of a thought, or a sentence from several. He made a pretty complete argument there.

I don't see how he could wrap that up in a larger context where it would substantially change what he was saying.

EDIT: Boston.com had some more excerpts. Here, I agree with Romney:

    “We have a website that lays out white papers on a whole series of issues that I care about,” he said. “I have to tell you, I don’t think this will have a significant impact on my electability. I wish it did. I think our ads will have a much bigger impact. I think the debates will have a big impact.”

    “In a setting like this, a highly intellectual subject—discussion on a whole series of important topics typically doesn’t win elections,” he added.

b_b  ·  4454 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Except that having a highly intellectual discussion is impossible when its your stated position that lying is a reasonable campaign strategy, you know with strong logic being based on true premises and all.

b_b  ·  4454 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You may get your wish. Mother Jones says this is just a teaser and the worst is yet to come.

thenewgreen  ·  4454 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Could be the nail in the coffin? Then again, the majority of his supporters will likely applaud this.

b_b  ·  4454 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yeah but the majority of his supporters don't really matter here, politically. Who matters are the several percent who are leaning Obama but really aren't sure. He might lose those.