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kleinbl00  ·  141 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Annoyed by Restaurant Playlists, a Master Musician Made His Own

    I would prefer that music not seem an afterthought, or the result of algorithmic computation. I want it chosen by a person who knows music up and down and sideways: its context, its dynamism and its historical and aural clich├ęs. Such a person can at least accomplish the minimum, which is to signal to the customer that attention is being paid, in a generous, original, specific and small-ego way.

It's interesting how the author assumes all other playlists are assembled with utmost carelessness. I worked at PlayNetwork and the guy who put playlists together for Abercrombie & Fitch? Yeah, founded the Decibel festival. Guy who programmed Starbuck's? Former member of Tower of Power. Vespertine in LA commissioned a soundtrack by This Will Destroy You. Amusingly enough, all of that music has mechanical royalties tracked which means the artists whose music is used are getting paid, unlike Sakamoto's playlist.

I'm a fan of Ryuchi Sakamoto. But the NY Times isn't making the case that this is anything other than Ryuchi Sakamoto hating the music at the place he sips miso soup.

thenewgreen  ·  141 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The other day I was in a Crate and Barrel and was really enjoying the playlist. Then it dawned on me.... I must be old. Then I went and bought a skateboard. Landed my first Ollie in 20 plus years. So, therein lies the power of a store playlist when convergent with a mid life crisis.

flagamuffin  ·  140 days ago  ·  link  ·  

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i don't get any badges anymore because i never use the website. wish i could transfer them away from people who no longer deserve them

thenewgreen  ·  140 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Thanks for the thought flag. Nice to hear from ya!

kitsy  ·  141 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Ryuchi Sakamoto hating the music at the place he sips miso soup is the inspiration and example for the author's argument: too many establishments treat music as an afterthought, and it's interesting to put some thought into it so that it complements the business. I agree, I can name a local coffee chain and a laundry near me at that use Pandora - complete with inserted advertisements - & it could be better.

I have family that worked at A&F who brought home their music DVDs. Sure, there would be a couple indie surprises tossed in the playlists, but overall I associate their music with the lowest common denominator demographic. Starbucks was playing Lil Jon & the East Side Boyz when I recently walked in. These companies play "brand-establishing music, or the kind that makes you want to spend money". I don't think Mr. Sakamoto's goal is the same, he is choosing brand complementing music.

kleinbl00  ·  141 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    too many establishments treat music as an afterthought, and it's interesting to put some thought into it so that it complements the business.

This is an utterly baseless and prejudicial sentiment. "I don't like the music therefore the owner didn't think about it." The restaurant owners I know sweat blood over the music - ask cgod. Meanwhile the large organizations you describe - A&F and Starbuck's - have entire teams of people focused on the music and whoever ultimately picks the playlist has to make them happy as well as serving the brand; we had a tie-in with AFI wherein we got their album a week before it dropped which meant we had to revise every Hot Topic playlist to use and compliment AFI while also preserving whatever else Hot Topic had going on. Then, of course, we had to explain how our system was "hacked" when the AFI album showed up on torrent sites; we had to deploy forensic investigators to point out that the audio files available had minute amounts of analog distortion because someone had unplugged our encrypted player from the amplifier and run the signal into their iPhone.

Much like your Lil Jon issue. it doesn't take much to unplug the music and plug in your own.

I think Mr. Sakamoto's goal is to listen to music he likes while sipping miso. And I think it's an insult to trades most people don't think about when they presume "oh, I hate the music therefore the guy who picked it is an idiot."

kitsy  ·  141 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Why are you always like this? Sorry for sharing an article that I thought was interesting in an attempt to generate content on Hubski.

An opinion or thought = an utterly baseless and prejudicial sentiment. Jesus Christ, man.

kleinbl00  ·  141 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Because I've had to field calls that start with "if you ever play Dixie Chicks in our stores again we'll tear out all the gear and ship it back freight collect."

The article is baseless. Interesting? Surely. But if I know something is deeply and completely wrong, am I supposed to shut up so I don't hurt your feelings?

kitsy  ·  141 days ago  ·  link  ·  

My feelings aren't hurt, I'm just amazed how much of a dick you are when it comes to 'food for thought' articles.

kleinbl00  ·  141 days ago  ·  link  ·  

In case you missed it, the article - and your sentiments - run directly contrary to that which I did for a living for 90 hours a week for 2 years. The "trade most people don't think about" was mine.

Considering this whole discussion has been about how me and my former colleagues have no fucking idea what we're doing, I'd say I've been rather polite.

user-inactivated  ·  141 days ago  ·  link  ·  

There's a coffee shop around here that I used to visit frequently and stopped going to altogether. Nothing about the place has changed, except for the fact that they have insisted on playing really weird, really experimental jazz. We're talking about syncopated beats, hard to follow melodies, almost zero structure, all that kind of stuff. Coffee is supposed to be relaxing, that music counter acts it.