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johnnyFive  ·  279 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Shit like this makes me glad I'm not famous

That's crap. Women didn't come forward because their accusations weren't taken seriously. But that is not the same thing as "treating the men they accuse as guilty as soon as the accusation is made," or in this case, "treating the man people assume the accusation is about as guilty from the start."

The inevitable result of this mindset is simply a race to accuse first.

Let me turn it over now to Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who had this to say on the subject:

    Q: I think people are hungry for your thoughts about how to balance the values of due process against the need for increased gender equality.

    RBG: It's not one or the other. It's both. We have a system of justice where people who are accused get due process, so it's just applying to this field what we have applied generally.

(Emphasis mine.)

tacocat  ·  279 days ago  ·  link  ·  

This isn't a criminal trial dawg.

johnnyFive  ·  279 days ago  ·  link  ·  

THAT IS THE PROBLEM. Criminal trials have actual rules, and require actual proof, not just accusations. We started using them for a reason! Are you seriously arguing that this was a mistake? And if not, why does it suddenly not apply when women accuse men of sexual misconduct in a public setting?

OftenBen  ·  279 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    This isn't a criminal trial dawg.

It will likely become one, one way or another.

tacocat  ·  278 days ago  ·  link  ·  

No it won't.

OftenBen  ·  278 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The title IX case that J5 linked to? It most certainly will.*