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johnnyFive  ·  9 hours ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Court orders Dakota pipeline shut in latest blow to U.S. fossil fuel projects

If it's actually canceled, then it must be economics, because SCOTUS just (like within the last month) overturned the court order blocking its further construction.

johnnyFive  ·  1 day ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Soon we’ll all be cancelled

Thanks! I really do want to get back on that particular project, as I said.

johnnyFive  ·  1 day ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Soon we’ll all be cancelled

There's absolutely a distinction between government and private action, both legally and from a practical, moral point of view. But that doesn't mean all of the underlying issues are different, and the way we see one can very easily influence the way we see the other.

I have two primary concerns. One, it's only a matter of time before someone gets cancelled unjustly. With literally 0 safeguards in place, that is an inevitability, and there's no clear way for someone to clear their name. Second, and related to this, the whole idea of things like the First Amendment was to protect unpopular speech, i.e. things that would make people mad. We often think of it as speech that was ahead of its time, but that's not exclusively where it applies.

johnnyFive  ·  1 day ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Soon we’ll all be cancelled

Yep, I'm still around. I'd like to do the SCOTUS posts still, I'm just not as good at keeping up with when new decisions drop as I have been :)

johnnyFive  ·  2 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Soon we’ll all be cancelled

The thing is, she's not wrong about the problem. The mob is very real, and it's as un-nuanced as she suggests. I've written about this before on hubski, and was not particularly well-received, and unfortunately I think that's true in a lot of communities. (What happened to Richard Stallman is a good example of how the mob can get ahead of itself.) All it takes is one edited screenshot or just a baseless accusation and we're off to the races.

Where she is wrong is about the consequences. I can't speak to what young people may be feeling; I'm in my late 30s and have basically no shame, so "holding back" isn't remotely in my wheelhouse, for better or worse. So the idea that I wouldn't say something for fear of being "called out" is just...weird. But as for famous people, I can't think of anyone who's been permanently forced out of the public eye absent going to jail (and even then it's debatable). Plenty of famous people have been sent to time out, which I think is the appropriate response, and is better than what I was worried about; I believe that redemption and atonement are always possible.

My main concern, though, is that culturally we'll begin to forget why due process is a thing. We already seem to have forgotten that you can't only protect "some" speech (in a legal sense). Someone on a leftist discord I frequent legit said that hate speech should be illegal. I also think this is going to allow us to not give a shit about reforming the actual criminal justice system. I get the catharsis about someone who was caught on social media being racist losing their job or whatever, but we have to think about what our goals actually are. I'm not convinced that that kind of shaming will actually change anyone's mind. Meanwhile, the mob is fickle, and it can turn on you easily. We forget that our system is specifically designed so that minorities are protected (ideally, that is), but it's easy to forget that "minority" in this instance just means "someone who has a minority view." Popular speech never needs protection.

johnnyFive  ·  8 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Reddit bans 'The_Donald' forum in crackdown, Twitch suspends Trump's channel

It was about time for reddit's bi-annual "let's pretend we give a shit about hate speech," yes.

Also, noted shitheel Stefan Molyneux got banned from YouTube, which is nice.

Well, just so long as the neediest are taken care of.

johnnyFive  ·  12 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Even worse anti-encryption bill proposed in the Senate

I mean, it could be simpler, in that he hitched his horse to Trump when Trump was getting reasonably popular, and lacks the courage to change now.

johnnyFive  ·  12 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Even worse anti-encryption bill proposed in the Senate

It's weird, because he was pretty critical early on as I recall.

johnnyFive  ·  13 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Why Are Some Journalists Afraid of “Moral Clarity”?

OftenBen has at least part of the answer for sure.

But I see it as more of a reflection on a broader trend. Politically, Republicans were able to cast (and still do) liberals as not being "tough" enough, whether that meant being shitty to poor people and prisoners (which, in their minds, really meant "black people") or more generally being "pragmatic" or "realistic." Sacrifices are good, they argue, but the subtext is that they're good so long as they're not making them.

Sadly, the Democrats conceded the moral high ground long ago, and instead tried to argue on Republicans' terms while still somehow being against them. Everything's down to economics and numbers, and no one has the courage to say "this is going to be harder but it's the right thing to do anyway." The Democrats' primary argument has been that they see the world in the exact same terms, they're just less openly terrible about what they do with that worldview. Since this is how politicians have talked for 30+ years, it's unsurprising that it's infected the rest of "respectable" discourse.

johnnyFive  ·  13 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Our grip on Phase 2 is slipping

Our governor here in VA is talking about going to Phase 3 next week, which seems premature to say the least. We've been better off than a lot of states, and so far our "spike" has only been a flattening of the curve, i.e. the number of new cases isn't going down, but isn't going up either. So far. I'm hoping phase 3 gets delayed, given that less restrictions doesn't exactly seem like the formula for magically making the number of new cases start to decrease again.

johnnyFive  ·  14 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Unintended Consequence; I'm getting a raise

I'm trying to think about what he would hate the most.

johnnyFive  ·  15 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Unintended Consequence; I'm getting a raise

At the end of the day, we do a lot of the same public assistance programs as the Europeans, just in the dumbest, most inefficient way possible.

johnnyFive  ·  21 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Show hubski: midnight.pub

A cool concept (and I signed up) - I look forward to seeing how it goes.

johnnyFive  ·  22 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: The US Federal Reserve will start buying individual corporate bonds

I was just listening to Trash Future, specifically their episode on Quibi and why that service's existence is endemic of the broader problems in the current system, including zero interest rate policy. More on that here.

johnnyFive  ·  23 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: US Supreme Court backs protection for LGBT workers

Indeed, and I think this is something that judges do more often than not. But it also goes to show how ridiculous the whole "original intent" argument is, because that is still a matter of interpretation.

johnnyFive  ·  23 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: US Supreme Court backs protection for LGBT workers

I think people misunderstand his ideology - it's not conservative the way Alito and Thomas are conservative. He's much more of an old-school conservative: generally hands-off when it comes to government action, which can be good (civil liberties) and not good (regulation). But IMO anyone surprised by this hasn't been paying a ton of attention. Gorsuch wrote a dissenting opinion when he was a circuit judge saying that he didn't think police should be able to apply the "plain sight" doctrine after they knocked on a guy's door despite a "no trespassing" sign on the property line.