In other words, we are 100% in the right to oppose any gun restriction for any reason, as it will begin a slow cultural trend towards the removal of our rights., and slippery slope yadda yadda. But those arguments miss the point. It's not about an immediate decrease in numbers, it's about a slow cultural shift away from the glorification of guns
Guns shouldn’t be glorified in the first place, they’re a tool. Seeing articles about a women who likely shot a gun once leaving a handgun out on her nightstand when her husband was gone for the night just to have her toddler shoot their sibling in the morning after she forgot about it is ridiculous. The comments are even worse, most of you guys actually feel bad for the dumb broad who thought she could handle a gun in crisis like okay sweety that’s definitely how this works. They act like it’s the same as leaving a sleeping baby in the backseat of the vehicle but you know what ? My truck dings before I get out with a little message that says “rear seat reminder” by default. At this point in my life it reminded me of a bottle of prosecco I had back there but I think it’s pretty cool for the intended purpose too. The comments from people who think they would have saved the day had they been there with a gun are nauseatingly stupid. They actually think there time at a gun range or shooting deer has 100% equipt them with everything needed to confront a mass shooter. Their right to live in some fantasy world doesn’t override others rights to feel safe. Glorifying guns is what got you that ridiculous fantasy. If you want to have a culture of guns you seriously need to work on a culture of intelligence and humility first. You know what could help ? Taking a course and a test to obtain a permit to purchase any firearms. Just like you do to drive a car because nobody else’s life should depend on how well gramps taught you to drive.
A tool makes the wielders powerful. We should have faith in the fact that giving power to people results in good. It will result in bad, as well, but the belief that more good will come than bad is the foundation for modern society as it is today. I don't believe that good guys will beat out the bad guys or that more guns will solve school shootings. Instead I believe that these shootings are signs that things are bad, and need to be fixed. Ranging from a need for stronger mental health, to a need for news coverage and discourse on topics like this chasing attention rather than seeking to improve our society as a whole. I believe in a society that values the power of the individual more than it does safety. Generally you do not want to trust anyone who tries or wants to teach you a lesson in humility.If you want to have a culture of guns you seriously need to work on a culture of intelligence and humility first.
Are you more comfortable with synonym humbleness ? It is insane that people think owning a gun makes them capable of handling it. That's like buying a car and just deciding you can drive. Or deciding you can race because you can handle driving around your suburban neighbourhood. A little humbleness or humility would have likely caused that woman to think twice about leaving a handgun out that morning because she would have understood that if something could go wrong she would have a dead child. Evidently her arrogance cost her. And then we have this arrogant twat who's arrogance keeps her from understanding how opening fire in a busy parking lot on shoplifters was the wrong thing to do. She sure could benefit from not being an arrogant twat or in other words being more humble You know what kind of person buys their 9 year old a handgun and just lets them play with it in the backyard ? An arrogant fucking idiot. It's the same bulllshit arrogant mentality that makes people believe they are just good at driving drunk and that they are above the law. Other countries have mental health problems, underfunded social programs, poor people, drug addicts without the ridiculous gun violence problems yours has. What they might be lacking is an infestation of arrogant morons who feels that their fantasy of being a hero good guy with a gun is more important than the safety of children. I have never and will never feel like my ability to feel good about myself overrides my duty to give a fuck about other people. You've got to stop pretending you're only gun problem is related to angry young men. As for unintentional firearm injuries , Weiser said, the third-grade girl he treated was not the only accidental gunshot wound he saw in a child. Another such injury involved a boy around 9 who was given a handgun for his birthday. "He shot his 6-year-old brother, playing in the backyard," Weiser said
Yeah, cost her. It's a tragedy and I'll feel bad about it to see people hurt by stupid decisions. However, if I were to buy a gun I'd lock it up in a safe, possibly with finger-print access and in my bedroom, and be sure to keep it from children. That's a price of giving power to people. Some people are idiots. Some people make stupid mistakes. Some people do stupid things. We should seek to protect them and help them, not dismiss them as stupid, but we shouldn't seek to protect them from their own stupidity. Arrogant idiots exist, but honest kind and intelligent people far outnumber them in both number and outcome. It's why liberal and free society is better than ones that attempt to restrict human nature and power. Human nature and power is good, not bad. Perhaps this would be a good ground, as well as cars, from which to speak of gun control? Imagine if those who abused guns or were in stupid situations were treated as those who abused their rights to alcohol? Place gun control on those individuals after they act stupidly. But none of the drives to fix them that we do. Our mentally ill will shoot us dead. Our race riots can turn into race wars. We are not without teeth, and that's a great thing.A little humbleness or humility would have likely caused that woman to think twice about leaving a handgun out that morning because she would have understood that if something could go wrong she would have a dead child. Evidently her arrogance cost her.
It's the same bulllshit arrogant mentality that makes people believe they are just good at driving drunk and that they are above the law.
Other countries have mental health problems, underfunded social programs, poor people, drug addicts without the ridiculous gun violence problems yours has.
Ohhh I understand now, you’re one of those people that reads “gun control” and thinks it’s means “ take away all the guns”. This was fun but I could write 10 long drawn out comments about how requiring somebody to take a test to own a gun just like we do when somebody wants to drive isn’t equivalent to taking away all the guns ( you know people who own cars yes ? You’ve seen them out in the wild ?) and you’ll still think everybody is trying to take away your guns. You also think alcohol is a right which just... ya. You know your country still have dry counties right ?
I do not support dry counties or even the stupid laws that ban alcohol early sunday morning. I support their right to have a ban like that on a very local level, though, even if I would prefer that no county has a ban such as that. I also recall you saying something akin to that small change gun control is a step on the path to very wide and broad gun control, so I really can't see you as a strong supported of limited gun control. In another few years, you'd be preaching for a ban if you got your way.You also think alcohol is a right which just... ya. You know your country still have dry counties right ?
No I didn’t, you’re just having a hard time keeping usernames straight. Even the person you think you’re talking to only said changes in gun control would lead to a shift in cultural feelings towards gun which isn’t a bad thing at all. Gun owners in your country being more intelligent wouldn’t be a bad thing. I don’t care about how you feel on dry counties. It’s just pretty funny to call alcohol a right when you live in a country where it’s clearly not a right.
What's your opinion of the "fire in a crowded theater" example? Was that the beginning of slow cultural trend towards the removal of 1st amendment rights?
I don't honestly believe that reasonable restrictions on gun control will create a slow cultural trend towards banning guns as a whole. Respect for the danger of a weapon does not lead to a slippery slope towards the ban of it. I think it's a great idea to, at the very least, mandate that all guns are stored in gun safes (or at least you have to own one to own the other), or for guns to be taxed with enough money to account for possible damage they can do and security measures their existence creates, and so on.