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wasoxygen  ·  2485 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Car Article Dump

The bitcoin enthusiast at work revealed that he is waiting for a Model 3. We have requested a lunch outing.

Tesla is moving up in the sales list. It is no longer unusual to see them around.

          YTD 2017  YTD 2016

BMW 149,086 153,436

Audi 102,971 96,934

Porsche 27,568 26,708

Tesla 23,550 16,500

Jaguar 20,665 10,991

Fiat 14,682 16,712

It took me a while to get through the long WaitButWhy love letter to Elon Musk but I didn't regret it.





user-inactivated  ·  2485 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Looks like everyone but BMW and Fiat got a bit of a bump from 2016, though 2017 isn't near done yet. Are the 2017 figures projected sales?

Edit: YTD sales. Got it.

wasoxygen  ·  2485 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I assume both YTD numbers represent January 1 to June 30 of each year. I was a bit confused by the "foreign" and "domestic" distinction, but it seems to indicate location of manufacture.

The order is kind of goofy too. Here's the ranking by June 2017 sales. Tesla is still among the boutique marques, but within striking distance of Volvo and Mitsubishi.

  GM       242,873

Ford 227,166

Toyota 202,376

Chrysler 184,089

Nissan 143,328

Honda 139,793

Kia 56,143

Hyundai 54,507

Subaru 52,057

Mercedes 32,102

BMW 28,962

VW 27,377

Mazda 22,342

Audi 19,416

Mitsubishi 7,625

Volvo 7,303

Land Rover 5,760

Porsche 4,516

Mini 4,410

Tesla 3,900

Jaguar 2,946

Fiat 2,242

Maserati 1,235

Alfa Romeo 1,017

Smart 226

Ferrari 218

Bentley 218

Rolls Royce 111

Lamborghini 102

Maybach 0

user-inactivated  ·  2485 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I took a second look at youre list and see a few surprises actually. Namely, Subaru outselling Mazda. I'd figure it being the other way around. Also, I'm surprised to see Nissan outselling Honda. Based on reputation alone, Honda seems to have a much better build quality. It's also interesting to see that Nissan and Honda both by their own outsells Hyundai and Kia combined. I see those cars everywhere.

cgod  ·  2485 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'd guess that Subaru's sales advantage is purely a result of their dominance in the Portland metro area. I swear every third car is an Outback or a Forrester. It's this generations minivan.

WanderingEng  ·  2485 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I might be swayed by an argument that Tesla could pass Audi or Mazda. Isn't the speculation that they have something like 500,000 Model 3 preorders? Shipping 15-20,000 per month still gives them two years of backlog.

user-inactivated  ·  2485 days ago  ·  link  ·  

insomniasexx, didn't you pre-order a 3? Any idea on when you're getting yours?

insomniasexx  ·  2485 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Both my mom and I did -- haven't heard anything yet. But we just bought a house w/ garage wired for it so GET ME MAH TESLA NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! 😃

We're in LA and ordered as soon as they were available so supposedly we'll be earlier rather than later. I'll keep you posted.

user-inactivated  ·  2485 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm genuinely excited for you. It's fun getting a brand new car. :)

user-inactivated  ·  2485 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think since Tesla and Volvo both fit the mid-high range of cars, they're pretty comparable. I just got done reading the NPR Article on Volvo's shift towards electric and just like the Guardian article, they clearly state that Tesla is a motivator towards their change . . .

    In a press conference in Stockholm on Wednesday, Samuelsson called Tesla "a tough competitor," and said that with this decision, "we are really becoming the second premium carmaker in the world which will be ... also electrified."

One of the things I find interesting is that on Hulu right now, there are commercials for both the Mazda 6 and a Chevrolet SUV (which I believe is the Equinox, but don't quote me on that) that shows their premium interior offerings. It makes me wonder if car companies recently did a study and found that people are starting to worry about interior fit and finish, reduction in NVH, etc. I'm not gonna lie. Sometimes when I'm driving the FR-S for long distances, I kind of wish I had a Buick instead. Then again, sometimes I look at a Toyota Tacoma and wish I had that instead. So in general, min-maxing for a sports car is a great idea when you really want a sports car, but when all you have is a sports car, sometimes it's very obvious what you're missing out on.

Edit: Those Smart numbers. L-O-Fucking-L