Peter Parker got bit by a radioactive spider. Barry Allen, Wally West and Matt Murdock all had chemicals spilled on them. Bruce Banner and Phillip Solar were exposed to massive amounts of radiation. These are all things that would more than likely kill you.
Bruce Wayne and Frank Castle saw their family members killed before their eyes. Kal-El had his home planet destroyed. Odds are they'd be victims of these tragedies as well.
Super villains also tend to have similar origin stories. What if, for many, the Marvel and DC Universes are actually purgatory, where there choices and actions will purify them so they may enter heaven? That's why they never age, they never stay dead, and all of the world seems to be centered around them and their actions?
It's fun to think about, for a minute (but not much more).
Caveat: written with accordance to Roman Catholic view of things as that's the one I know anything relevant. By the way, I don't disagree with you, but rd95's post feels compelling to drive it forward. I'll happily play Devil's advocate if need be. :D Sounds like a good way to run Purgatory. You can't do any act of evil or commit any sin unless it's obviously your choice. And since there's nothing in the Bible that should let us assume you can suddenly see moral choices in a clear Mass Effect's wheel of choices… seems like it should avoid greys. You can't fall and go to Hell from Purgatory, and generally that's the place where you put the 'good' people who need to either repent for their sins or correct their swerved ways. Typical superhero is on a personal mission, be it by their choice or by some decree they must uphold. Well written villain (Two-Face is among my personal favourites… and I don't even like Batman as a franchise) on the other hand should reflect something from said superhero's persona. Show the hero to its face how similar they are despite opposite causes or drives, and what they must confront. Both as their enemy and that part of themselves. I don't know if it can be easily done as a test for someone when the choices are not black and white. Emphasis on 'easily', I never said it's impossible. ;)Then the ethics in purgatory are more black and white than on earth
Here's a thought. The heroes tend to perform one righteous deed after another, yet they're still stuck in purgatory. What if the villains are in purgatory until they redeem themselves and the heroes are in purgatory until they guide the villains to redemption? No villain ever truly redeems themselves and no heroes ever really guide them, thus the continuation of their struggles over the years.
Oh, I like that spin. Nobody is the villain in their own story. For example, Dr Doom's (or Commander EU :P) reign over Latveria seems almost too good under certain writers. It looks like it's the Fantastic Four who are the bad guys for not letting the guy to rule the world… because Doom took a shitty country and changed it into a really neat place to live. On the other hand, they never really change that much. It's a struggle that perpetuates itself and the good guys will always be matched by a not-too-powerful villain, so that their battle will last forever. Some heroes gather together to fight similar coalitions of villains. This is honestly only "and upon each death they will rise again to fight glorious battles, feast and rejoice with their kind" from being Valhalla. That however goes into Inception territory when remembering that Avengers actually have a Valhalla on their own. :D
This idea is fun and creative. My original comment was a bit flippant. However, I do feel like it did bring up an issue in combining comic book characters with belief systems of people in real life that has impact on their actions. Separating the world into good and evil characters doesn't reflect real life and real people. The characters in the comics are personifications of concepts. No person is just good or just evil. I'm sure no one here is trying to pretend that this reflects real life and that this is just a fun thought experiment. However, having the purgatory concept itself is one of the ways that people over the years have justified villifying people. They can pretend that there are good and bad people. In order for there to be pure villains, you'd have to assume perfect knowledge, perfect experience, perfect ability and perfect free will. No one has that. When comics turn into movies, sometimes the villains get more fleshed out and people can relate to them better. That's sometimes when it's less fun to villify them. Mixing caricatures of good and evil with the real life belief of some people in the concept of purgatory has me a little uneasy that people might actually think that it might be an accurate reflection of real life. It is not.
I don't think you have too much to worry about. For one, superhero comics tend to be a little lacking in subtlety and I think that gives them some of their charm. It might even be a trope (though the term is a bit nebulous to me). So when you have a very binary heroes=good and villians=bad style of storytelling, it works based on that alone. Because they're hero stories and because they're simplistic, chances are they won't be taken to seriously by their readers. In order for there to be pure villains, you'd have to assume perfect knowledge, perfect experience, perfect ability and perfect free will. No one has that. There are a few different ways to approach this, theologically, but I think in its most simple form, purgatory is a place where souls are awaiting to ascend into heaven and any suffering that takes place (if there is suffering in purgatory) is temporary. Therefore any person who is in purgatory cannot be at their core evil, because if they were they wouldn't be there in the first place. Personally, I kind of like that metaphor because that would mean even the worse of the villians in superhero comics will eventually be spiritually cleansed and will eventually go to heaven. It creates another layer to the story where anyone can redeem themselves, no matter how serious or how numerous their past mistakes.However, having the purgatory concept itself is one of the ways that people over the years have justified villifying people. They can pretend that there are good and bad people.
In the Marvel universe, gamma radiation gives you super powers because the Celestials tinkered with human evolution. My favorite head canon for why no one ages in Marvel is the Franklin Richards doesn't want them to. When Marvel started in the sixties it ran in real time. Peter Parker was in high school for four years or whatever of our time, then went to college. No one knew they were creating cultural touchstones so this didn't seem like a bad idea. Franklin Richards is the most powerful earthbound being in Marvel. He can control reality. He was born in 1968 right around the introduction of "Marvel Time." The theory goes that Franklin doesn't want to grow up or for his friends to age and die so he has essentially stopped time for the entire universe. As for DC, there's a crisis that resets time like every two weeks.
Seeing as how Marvel sometimes scales the age of their heroes to line up with world events, this is pretty good heads canon if you ask me. Better a dimension shattering crisis than having to make a deal with the devil.My favorite head canon for why no one ages in Marvel is the Franklin Richards doesn't want them to.
As for DC, there's a crisis that resets time like every two weeks.
Ah. Yeah. That would make sense then. Have you read much of it? What's your opinion on it? Most of my DC knowledge comes from the '90s Timmverse and then what I pick up here and there through conversations. I know DC has actually put out some good stories throughout the decades, but I just don't find a lot of their heroes compelling. I was always more into Marvel out of the big two but didn't even read them that much because I hate major events and crossovers which they seem to do every few months. So when Valiant resurfaced, I jumped in feet first since day one and haven't regretted it. They're doing a great job in my opinion.
I don't read any comics anymore but I like to keep up on what's going on. They folded the Watchmen into DC proper so that's pretty shitty but the overall reaction is positive. I recommend NerdSync on YouTube. I watch a few other channels but they're the best. It's hard to explain on my phone what they do but it's not recaps