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johnnyFive  ·  2823 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Why Leftists Should Have No Problem Voting For Hillary Clinton

But I don't think it's a false premise at all (again, depending on the state). I agree totally with the author's premise that voting only has moral value insofar as it influences a desirable outcome. Not voting at best doesn't influence it at all, and in a swing state that could be actively harmful to the people living in this country.





dublinben  ·  2823 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I actually disagree most strongly with that claim, of all in the article. Voting grants legitimacy to the results of the election, even when you disagree with them. If you are unable to accept the possible consequence of a Trump Presidency, then you should refuse to vote, not hold your nose and vote for Clinton.

I choose to apply Kant's categorical imperative in this situation. If we all refused to participate in this "time consuming media spectacle" then the world would be a better place. If we abolished the office of the President, then we couldn't even worry about it falling into the "wrong" hands.

kleinbl00  ·  2823 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think it's interesting that you feel you have a choice in accepting a Trump presidency. How is that going to work, exactly?

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

- Edmund Burke

dublinben  ·  2823 days ago  ·  link  ·  

This discussion is all completely moot, because I don't live in a swing state. My vote literally does not matter.

kleinbl00  ·  2822 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Your vote on everything else matters.

I'm not going to let you be self-righteous about inaction.

OftenBen  ·  2822 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Keep it up and you might actually convince even me that the real risk of this election cycle isn't the presidency but the Supreme Court seats.