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Bypel  ·  2076 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Forum where fallacies are banned

    You don't like a mute feature but you think certain ways people express their opinion should be banned ?

I don't like a mute feature because it allows anyone to stop people commenting on their posts.

It's OK when there are more-trusted people moderating according to agreed upon rules.

What would be even better is making posts hidden by default rather than deleting them or better than that is https://voat.co/v/technology/comments/876288/new .





jadedog  ·  2076 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    It's OK when there are more-trusted people moderating according to agreed upon rules.

There are no such people. I trust myself more than I trust others to moderate my experience. When other people get to moderate your experience, you have to conform to their expectations or risk getting banned.

All people have biases, and there are no rules possible that don't require some level of judgment. That level of judgment is often exploited to censor out discussion. The ability to censor out discussion is then left in the hands of a very few people who become very powerful and almost always use that power to stop people from commenting on their pet issues. Often, they don't even realize they're doing it because it's an unquestioned bias on their part.

Bypel  ·  2028 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That is a good point.

    I trust myself more than I trust others to moderate my experience.

Then why do you use Hubski with it's filter (which I don't disagree with BTW) and mute (which I do) systems?

I still think the benefits of having fallacies outlawed outweigh the risks though.

Treat /logic/ like an experiment (when I am given the board and start moderating it). /logicpol/ is ready though. EDIT: I forgot the password.

Maybe I should simply not delete all posts that contain fallacies but just ban people who simply don't care about logic.

jadedog  ·  2026 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Then why do you use Hubski with it's filter (which I don't disagree with BTW) and mute (which I do) systems?

I'm still a bit new here to determine the upsides and downsides fully. However, I'm not seeing how you think Hubski moderates your experience. You'll have to explain more fully. I read your post on how you didn't like the mute function, but you didn't explain why very fully.

    I still think the benefits of having fallacies outlawed outweigh the risks though.

Then hopefully you'll enjoy the forum you're describing. I've posted too long on forums that started out with that description and found that it doesn't ever work out that way in the long run. At some point, it becomes about mods telling the people they don't like that they're using fallacies and people that they do like that they're not. That's just my experience.

Bypel  ·  1947 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Then hopefully you'll enjoy the forum you're describing. I've posted too long on forums that started out with that description and found that it doesn't ever work out that way in the long run. At some point, it becomes about mods telling the people they don't like that they're using fallacies and people that they do like that they're not. That's just my experience.

Couldst thou* tell me those forums please?

* I like to distinguish singular and plural and it's also probably good practice for learning foreign languages.