This is a problem though, because she became an insider with the criminals in wall street. I don't want an insider at all. I don't have kids, why not flip the boat and build a new one from the flotsam?You know how you go from outsider to insider?
Don't suck at your job.
Not true. Hillary was on the board of Walmart since like '84. The Clintons pushed hard for NAFTA. Hell - Hillary volunteered for the Goldwater campaign before she impeached Nixon before she volunteered for the Carter campaign. Business interests have always been her bag. People who think that somehow Clinton shifted right aren't paying attention - Clintons did what Clintons do, but they had an easier time getting the Republican stuff passed. Once more with feeling: I agree far more with Sanders' politics. Most idealists do. But realists also recognize that an idealist in the real world for 30 years either compromises a fuckload or accomplishes nothing. I think it's fair to say that Bill and Hillary Clinton are centrists that support free trade and minimal government involvement in commerce, and have been for lo these many decades. I also think it's fair to say that most of us are not centrists that support free trade and minimal government involvement in commerce. But if I'm going to have someone in charge of worker rights, tariffs and trade I'd much rather they be a centrist that tried to pass universal healthcare than a walking tan line that thinks Mexico is going to build his wall. I also think you don't have a real conception of what "flipping the boat" looks like. We're spoiled in this country - we can whine about pallets of hundred dollar bills vanishing into Iraq or universal nuclear disarmament scuttled in favor of Star Wars but at least those were establishment Republicans with the backing of the Machine. Trump? I mean, did you see Christie's eyes? The world never CTRL-ALT-DELs cleanly. If you have the choice between a soft landing and a hard one, choose soft.
So we're back to coercion. Toe the line and worship Shillary or else drumpf es numero uno BR HUEHUEHUEHUEHUE and the world ends in nuclear fire because sanders is an unelectable idealist. Remind me why I should vote again? I'm also not conceding the point about being in bed with wallstreet. It's telling that she won't release those transcripts, and they give her boatloads of money directly and indirectly. If it's good for the financier class it's almost definitionally bad for everybody who isn't one.
No, we're back to "stop pretending that those of us who support realistic centrist government over the Short Fingered Vulgarian are imbeciles that lack values." Because you lost that one. Go ahead and not vote - see if I give a fuck. But realize that a candidate that doesn't take money is either A) an independently-wealthy billionaire or B) ineffectual. And that I know this, and you don't, doesn't make you pure, it makes you ignorant. Stop being ignorant.
I don't. I think you need more idealism so you can be equally as pissed as me when hillary wins, in addition to being relieved that the psycho and his anarchist party loses. No one should celebrate any outcome of this election. I'm just popping balloons a little early, instead of 8 years later after we're done with 'Basically Obama 2.0 but a woman.'"stop pretending that those of us who support realistic centrist government over the Short Fingered Vulgarian are imbeciles that lack values."
I'm gonna guess you were what? 15 when the economy collapsed in 2007? I was trying to make a living in Los Angeles with a mortgage in Washington and a recent college grad attempting to start a new business. The fact that I got to do that in a recession, rather than a depression, is entirely due to your buddy "thanks Obama." Know what? Pop your own damn balloons. Because when you keep responding to facts with sour grapes, the only thing you're doing is demonstrating you don't want to listen.
I think it's difficult for young people who weren't alive or aware during the "Harry and Louise" Hillarycare days to appreciate what a coup the Affordable Care Act is. The law is far from perfect, but we will look back in twenty or thirty years and view Obama's presidency as an inflection point. Whether she's ever president, Mrs. Clinton deserves a lot of credit for that law.