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psychoticmilkman  ·  3341 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Pubski: February 24, 2016

I took a week long vacation, just before that my coworker quit. When I returned my department manager got fired. I am now the only person in my department.

I meet with management in a couple hours. I expect the company to offer me a raise (finally) and her position. But I'm not happy, I think they mistreated her and that it was wrong for them to fire her. Sadly I expect the same sort of heavy workload and lack of support if I take the position.

For the time being I want to take the position if it's offered, but negotiating terms is not going to be fun. I hope I'm ready. I'm nervous as hell.





kleinbl00  ·  3341 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Keep in mind:

You will never have as much leverage as you have now. If they don't offer you enough to stay, they lose all institutional memory of the entire department. If they don't treat you well enough to be happy, they will have to scramble to find someone to replace you when you inevitably move on. No matter how shitty the promotion, it's still a promotion and looks great on a resume.

Share your concerns (politely) and come up with the amount and conditions that will make you stay. Ask for them. Buddy of mine switched from a small boutique agency to CAA; his wife was insistent that he ask for "fuck you money" because she knew he'd burn out after a few years and they needed enough of a cushion he could take a few years off after that.

He got "fuck you" money.

psychoticmilkman  ·  3341 days ago  ·  link  ·  

For 6 months 10+ employees have been told "raises are coming "with no delivery. Two months ago I was promised I'd get a raise, that never happened. Today I was offered a promotion with an even smaller raise than was negotiated before. After more discussion where I raised my concerns about the position and we more clearly defined my job description, two things happened:

1) I accepted the job and insulting raise with the promise of an employee and slightly less insulting raise within 60 days.

2) I came to the conclusion that even if both of those promises were kept I would more than likely not be working for the company longer than 60 days.

There are other reasons for wanting to leave. I've been keeping my eyes open for a while now for other job opportunities, now I'll be actively looking for another job.

kleinbl00  ·  3341 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Actively looking for another job with another title, you mean.

Mark your calendar. Don't be even vaguely afraid to ask about the employee in two weeks, and the raise in four.

psychoticmilkman  ·  3341 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Very true.

I'm going to go update my resume, and set a reminder!

OftenBen  ·  3341 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Is "'fuck you' money" a west coast thing? I'd never heard the phrase until recently.

kleinbl00  ·  3341 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Wall street term from 1988

Has long been the position of unattainable wealth in Hollywood, probably popularized in 2014 for the rest of the English world:

OftenBen  ·  3341 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That's an awesome piece of acting.

blackbootz  ·  3341 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Are you gonna do anything special to get yourself ready for the negotiation? I only ask because I recently read an article about how the 15 minutes at the negotiating table have a disproportionate on the rest of your life as opposed to most other 15 minute periods.

Best of luck. Don't be nervous, they need you like you need them.

OftenBen  ·  3341 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I would say that they need him more than he needs them at this point. He's the only one left with directly relevant experience. They need him to train the next generation if nothing else.

psychoticmilkman  ·  3341 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I have been reading up on salary negotiation and asking for advice a lot recently. This is one of the first jobs where I've had the opportunity and motivation to work hard and grow in the company. I feel as if I've held my own pretty good so far. The problem is that negotiations go well and raises are promised...for a later date. Then magical unforeseeable issues pop up and raises have to be put on hold.