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_refugee_  ·  2989 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Pubski: February 17, 2016

I like people who deliberately say provocative things. I tend to do the same. It's fun and funny, not to mention challenging.

I'm dating one of those people right now. Over the weekend he said, as if in passing, "I'm anti-abortion." I stopped him, and asked him. He said, "I'm anti-abortion because at the end of the day, my opinion doesn't matter." He was right in this instance from the angle that, as a man, his opinion as to whether a woman, any woman, including a woman he has impregnated, should have the baby or not doesn't matter. The person who gets to decide to keep a child is the person with the child actually growing inside of it.

However, as a person dating _refugee_, he was entirely wrong to say, "I can be anti-abortion if I want because my opinion at the end of the day doesn't matter." To refugee, it matters 100% - NOT in the way that it would force my decision if I became pregnant, but as in "I want to date someone with similar morals and thoughts." I went back to the statement after he tried to flippantly dismiss it. I explained, "I need to know why you say you are anti-abortion, because I am not comfortable dating someone who claims to be such."

We settled the discussion down to the point of, "He doesn't believe abortion should be used as first-line birth control," but were unable to continue it due to time restraints. FWIW, yes, loves, I already know why this is a stupid reason to be anti-abortion and am aware that the vast majority of abortions are not used as such and so on. We talked about how an abortion is not without its own costs and how it might be foolish to think of abortions as generally/widely being used as first-line birth control.

This is one of my non-negotiables. I cannot, refuse to date someone who is or claims to be anti-abortion because to me, if you are against abortion, you are not only against a specific course of action, but you are opposed to my life and its existence in its current form.

I think at the end of the day S/O is not really anti-abortion, but I am not comfortable with him flinging the phrase around that he is, even if it's not true, either.





user-inactivated  ·  2989 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I like people who deliberately say provocative things. I tend to do the same. It's fun and funny, not to mention challenging.

Oh oh pick me!

    I'm dating one of those people right now. Over the weekend he said, as if in passing, "I'm anti-abortion." I stopped him, and asked him. He said, "I'm anti-abortion because at the end of the day, my opinion doesn't matter." He was right in this instance from the angle that, as a man, his opinion as to whether a woman, any woman, including a woman he has impregnated, should have the baby or not doesn't matter. The person who gets to decide to keep a child is the person with the child actually growing inside of it.

I disagree with everything in this paragraph, I think.

lil  ·  2989 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Just got 2nd postcard in which it is mentioned that boyfriend was "blessedly wonderful."

    This is one of my non-negotiables.
meh.

So how about this idea: Don't make a big deal out of it. My grandfather stated firmly, "Love is usually not based on common mentalities and similarity of religious and social ideologies."

S/O will gradually get more educated through life experience and perhaps personal interest. Many men don't really get "women's" issues. A lot of their ideology is just ignorant babbling.

Chances are, more likely, that this is just the tip of the iceberg and one day you'll move on to someone who shares more ideology with you.

_refugee_  ·  2989 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Eh, I wrote that postcard in January.

lets just say I set myself up for failure in my romantic choices because that's easier than us failing for reasons outside my control, eh? Yeah. Current s/o and I are likely to break up. Things I'd like to talk about in that regard? Closing in on 0.

lil  ·  2989 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Eh, I wrote that postcard in January.
Jan 8 actually. Turn-around time between blessedly wonderful and fucking asshole seems pretty quick. I do love the postcard though. It says, "Something has to start when something else ends."

I think you and flags should have a meetup. also bfx. I'm not suggesting a three-way, but they each seem pretty adorable in their own 30-years-younger-than-me way. Did I say 30? I think I mean oh fergettaboutit.

    lets just say I set myself up for failure in my romantic choices because that's easier than us failing for reasons outside my control, eh?
I guess. What are reasons for romantic failure outside of our control? All of them??? You think you can avoid giving in to an infatuation? I doubt it.

Note: Hubski, this is a private conversation. Just go away or we'll take it to pm/IRC.

Damn, I hope I can make steve spit out his cheerios giggling. If not, is life worth living?

steve  ·  2989 days ago  ·  link  ·  

lil  ·  2989 days ago  ·  link  ·  

s/o has to use a condom until he gets re-educated.

Tell him I said so.